Lake buhlow race

[Riverrat001]

What are the rules for the race. classes ect. I posted it on byuboyz and someone was askin

[MWhite]

What are the rules for the race. classes ect. I posted it on byuboyz and someone was askin
Dont know about race rules or class, i think they wont everyone to wear long sleeve shirts long pants and shoes, helmet and so on. Dont know about what kind of races they got set up there, think there having circle boat races and if we go we can have drag races, The people putting this on havent said alot about this so i dont know what rules there going to have.

[Jackson]

Dont know about race rules or class, i think they wont everyone to wear long sleeve shirts long pants and shoes, helmet and so on. Dont know about what kind of races they got set up there, think there having circle boat races and if we go we can have drag races, The people putting this on havent said alot about this so i dont know what rules there going to have.

No classes no rules run what u brung !!!!! :)

[MWhite]

No classes no rules run what u brung !!!!! :)
yep, i believe so

[Craig Wayne]

No classes no rules run what u brung !!!!! :)

Herd you was selling EVERYTHING ?

[Jackson]

Herd you was selling EVERYTHING ?

Yep I have two lower units for sale right now. $300 ea

[Craig Wayne]

Yep I have two lower units for sale right now. $300 ea

With or without a nose cone ?

[Jackson]

With or without a nose cone ?

Without u can put whatever u want to on them
They both have long shafts in them.

[Jackson]

I have a set of 60 carbs for sale also
And a tiller arm and clamp bracket

[Craig Wayne]

I have a set of 60 carbs for sale also
And a tiller arm and clamp bracket

How much ?

[BeanF]

Talk to Bill today, these are the rules for the race at Lake Buhlow: Long sleeve shirt, long pants, closed toe shoe, life jacket, helmet, and killswitch. 90 hp or less,we will discuss the way we'll take off either on idle or on plain at the races, if any questions call 309-0820.

[MWhite]

Whos all going to lake bulow for the races,

[Riverrat001]

Whos all going to lake bulow for the races,

Poor Boy Racing will be there with the Grey Ghost

[MWhite]

Poor Boy Racing will be there with the Grey Ghost
I new u be there riverrat, u been waitin on this for a while, i still got some things to work on but i should be ready, beano and hank trying to get ready, cw trying to get his boat fix up before he gos, dont know bout cody, cody u going, u better i'll talk about u for 44 years,if u dont,, hope we have a few from our area go, hope 75man shows up i'd like to blister his keyster.

[HankFrazier]

Whos all going to lake bulow for the races,
everybody thats going really needs to let Bean know so he can tell Bill so they can work us into the race schedule.

[Riverrat001]

everybody thats going really needs to let Bean know so he can tell Bill so they can work us into the race schedule.

Are y'all planning on racing both days or just Saturday and where is everybody staying

[MWhite]

Are y'all planning on racing both days or just Saturday and where is everybody staying
I'll probably leave early saturday morning going up there and coming back that evening,

[Gene Thornton]

Whats the dates of this race ya'll keep talking about

[Riverrat001]

Whats the dates of this race ya'll keep talking about

show down at lake Buhlow
Hey all you drag racers,

The AOF is planning to have a race at Lake Buhlow In Pineville La on April 16 and 17.
Same deal as the one we were supposed to have last year in October. I know the Bogalousa Boat Club will be there, and that Sabine River Gang.
Who ever else has something they think will run ,is more than welcome to come out and race with us.
We will have hydroplanes and run about knee riders racing as well.

[MWhite]

craig did take your boat to booters

[Craig Wayne]

craig did take your boat to booters

No he want call me back.My painters gona paint it friday i hope.Should be riging next week.

[HankFrazier]

Are y'all planning on racing both days or just Saturday and where is everybody staying
I'm sure me and Bean are spending the night may race both days

[Craig Wayne]

I'm sure me and Bean are spending the night may race both days

Both days for me if im ready...Ill be there either way...

[Riverrat001]

Does anyone have a hotel booked yet. If so where are y'all staying

[Craig Wayne]

I'm sure me and Bean are spending the night may race both days

Hank were yall stayin ? Im thinking Best Western but it dont matter to me just let me know were yall gona stay so i can book a room...

[MWhite]

craig is your boat going to be done by then

[HankFrazier]

Hank were yall stayin ? Im thinking Best Western but it dont matter to me just let me know were yall gona stay so i can book a room...
we not sure yet but that sounds good to me.

[Craig Wayne]

craig is your boat going to be done by then

Man im tryin hard but im busy as heck !!! Went to south la. today and got a gator tail mud motor for a state boat...And now were a gator tail dealer...Goin to the lake tomorrow to do a little work on the bass boat we just built so i dont have much free time for my stuff but is coming along...

[HankFrazier]

Man im tryin hard but im busy as heck !!! Went to south la. today and got a gator tail mud motor for a state boat...And now were a gator tail dealer...Goin to the lake tomorrow to do a little work on the bass boat we just built so i dont have much free time for my stuff but is coming along...
I know what u mean this damn 54 model truck and two outboards that i am painting are kicking my butt.

[MWhite]

Man im tryin hard but im busy as heck !!! Went to south la. today and got a gator tail mud motor for a state boat...And now were a gator tail dealer...Goin to the lake tomorrow to do a little work on the bass boat we just built so i dont have much free time for my stuff but is coming along...
you got someone on it

[Craig Wayne]

you got someone on it

Yep !!!

[Craig Wayne]

I know what u mean this damn 54 model truck and two outboards that i am painting are kicking my butt.

Hank yall booked any rooms yet for Alex. ?

[MWhite]

Hank did you get your parts today?;)

[Craig Wayne]

Hank did you get your parts today?;)

Nope they shiped them to me yea !!!

[MWhite]

Nope they shiped them to me yea !!!
Hes been wondering where they went.

[Craig Wayne]

Hes been wondering where they went.

Its ALL good at West Bluff i promise !!!

[MWhite]

Its ALL good at West Bluff i promise !!!
Hows the boat comin along

[Craig Wayne]

hows the boat comin along

wonderful !!!

[MWhite]

wonderful !!!
Is it going to be ready by april 16

[Craig Wayne]

Is it going to be ready by april 16

I hope so !!!

[Riverrat001]

Mike I like the new stickers. That's a good lookin motor

[MWhite]

Mike I like the new stickers. That's a good lookin motor
Thanks.

[HankFrazier]

Just got done taking motor off the fishing boat putting it on gator boat getting ready to make a few test hits. days inn.

[BeanF]

Hank, I tried to do some secret testing yesterday but got caught by Mr. White and it didn't take long for him to put me in my place with his new secret.

[MWhite]

Hank, I tried to do some secret testing yesterday but got caught by Mr. White and it didn't take long for him to put me in my place with his new secret.
I told u what was going to happen, O and CW is next.

[Riverrat001]

I might have to come visit y'all one day this week and do some testing. I had to redo my gearcase and haven't tried it out yet. It might fall appart on me.

[HankFrazier]

Hank, I tried to do some secret testing yesterday but got caught by Mr. White and it didn't take long for him to put me in my place with his new secret.
Damn I hate when that happens I guess after CW i'll be the next one on the list.

[MWhite]

Damn I hate when that happens I guess after CW i'll be the next one on the list.
Nope u not on the list, cause i done out run u already dont u remember. :D

[MWhite]

Nope u not on the list, cause i done out run u already dont u remember. :D
Hank did u get all your little projects out of the way, how bout them parts, u here anything on them

[BeanF]

Mike you might have got me the other day, but I have a secret weapon for YOU!!!

[seapro]

Stuffs warmin up everyone I'll say this once Dave and I are bringing his lil boat but if anything I have can be of use for someone of the gang to bring HOME the fastest outlaw 3 cyl trophy if we fall short is welcome to it

[HankFrazier]

Nope u not on the list, cause i done out run u already dont u remember. :D
Thanks SEAPRO. Mike i thought u wern't gona tell anybody about that. u can't keep sweet milk on your stomach. u just couldn't wait to get on here and tell everybody. Now thats the secret is out everybody better watch out Gangreen is bad to the bone.He put the ol gator on the trailer.

[MWhite]

Thanks SEAPRO. Mike i thought u wern't gona tell anybody about that. u can't keep sweet milk on your stomach. u just couldn't wait to get on here and tell everybody. Now thats the secret is out everybody better watch out Gangreen is bad to the bone.He put the ol gator on the trailer.
Its not my fault u had your finger on the wrong button. LOL

[j edwards]

Hey mike that motor looks good with them stickers! Thinking about getin some for mine ! Any ideas on where i can find some?

[HankFrazier]

We done some testing and playing today MIKES still the king but i an't give up yet. Looking forward to seeing the Bogalusa gang and visiting with them again.

[seapro]

Mikes boat beat anything I ever seen put a hurtin on our plans

[ima75man]

bean, lost my rocking chair, and ran out of tea,ain't i got nothing to prop my feet up on, so does that mean you will come down and race me??????? just saying....bring ole mike white with you, see if i can run with the merc killer......

[MWhite]

bean, lost my rocking chair, and ran out of tea,ain't i got nothing to prop my feet up on, so does that mean you will come down and race me??????? just saying....bring ole mike white with you, see if i can run with the merc killer......
75man,, srg will get u a new rocking chair, a shipment of tea from jason and stool to put your feet on if u come on down here to alex and do some racing next weekend. Got me a new killer merc, it likes omcs, yamahas tohotsu and afew mercs, cant keep beans merc out of my exhaust muffler, im waiting on cw to get his boat done so i can get all over him at lake bulow. Codys said hes wasnt going to make it, looking forward to seeing mr troy and the Bogalusa gang,, and the beast.

[ima75man]

wish i could make it, but o'bama said the country is broke,so i better work, and save some gas rations........ hope ya'll put up some video's. ya'll welcome to come on down,, got plenty of mullet and shrimp, jason will bring some mushroom tea he saves for special occasions....... out

[Craig Wayne]

wish i could make it, but o'bama said the country is broke,so i better work, and save some gas rations........ hope ya'll put up some video's. ya'll welcome to come on down,, got plenty of mullet and shrimp, jason will bring some mushroom tea he saves for special occasions....... out

You should be used to being BROKE you have OMCES !!!

[ima75man]

cw, i had a merc once, it wouldn't keep up with johnny-rudes, so i couldn't outrun them so i joined them.........lol out

[Riverrat001]

I guess were all gonna have to load up and take a trip to Florida and out run 75 on his own turf since he won't come down here.

[HankFrazier]

Craig u gona b ready by next weekend

[MWhite]

Cody are u going to come race with us are not, are ya skeeered i'll spank that a$$ are what.:p:D:D

[Craig Wayne]

Craig u gona b ready by next weekend

Yep !!!

[MWhite]

Yep !!!
craig hows your rig comin along, u ready to start rigging it out yet.

[Riverrat001]

I sure hope the bougalousa boys didn't get any faster so I don't have the slowest boat there. That srg is fast much faster than last year

[50hptiller]

Cody are u going to come race with us are not, are ya skeeered i'll spank that a$$ are what.:p:D:D

Tell you what I am gonna work on ol green tomorrow and if I get it fixed i'll be there...... drag or top end?

[MWhite]

Tell you what I am gonna work on ol green tomorrow and if I get it fixed i'll be there...... drag or top end?
Thats what i like to here,

[MWhite]

What kind of races are we going to run? Drag Race or Top end are both. 600ft from idle,,,,from a rolling start 600ft. Its been awhile sence i was there, do we have enough room to go 800ft or longer. How does everyone want run, it dont matter to me, just asking to see what ya'll all thought.:D

[Riverrat001]

What kind of races are we going to run? Drag Race or Top end are both. 600ft from idle,,,,from a rolling start 600ft. Its been awhile sence i was there, do we have enough room to go 800ft or longer. How does everyone want run, it dont matter to me, just asking to see what ya'll all thought.:D

I'd like to get going about 30 mph then nail it for 1/4 mile or so. My boats not set up for drag racing. If its gonna be 600ft drags I'm leaving my boat on the trailer

[ima75man]

I'd like to get going about 30 mph then nail it for 1/4 mile or so. My boats not set up for drag racing. If its gonna be 600ft drags I'm leaving my boat on the trailer

there's your sign, that's the reason out of state racers wont show up. in your other post, you said it didn't matter what ya'll ran..........bean and hank and mike for sure guna race maybe ole cw.........out

[Riverrat001]

there's your sign, that's the reason out of state racers wont show up. in your other post, you said it didn't matter what ya'll ran..........bean and hank and mike for sure guna race maybe ole cw.........out

I never said I wanted to drag race. My boat is too heavy to drag race. If u want to drag race come on down. We can get a scale and make ur boat weigh as much as mine then we can run. And as far as u, u wouldn't show up to race a 9.8 merc with ur slowMC

[orangebeast]

Now now guys, us bogalusa boys are gonna show up the same way as last time, our motors layin in the back of the truck and will have to put them together before we can even run, guess we gonna have to do like last time and start off racin the top dogs and work our way down . Hope every one is ready

[MWhite]

Now now guys, us bogalusa boys are gonna show up the same way as last time, our motors layin in the back of the truck and will have to put them together before we can even run, guess we gonna have to do like last time and start off racin the top dogs and work our way down . Hope every one is ready
bogalusa gang how do ya'll wont to run, up on plain and go, drag race from idle to 6 to 800ft are both.

[orangebeast]

Our rig is set up for 1/4 mile run. Get them on top of water and then go.

[MWhite]

Our rig is set up for 1/4 mile run. Get them on top of water and then go.
Is there enough room to get on top and go, does any one know, about it bill

[Riverrat001]

guess we gonna have to do like last time and start off racin the top dogs and work our way down

Well u gonna have to start with mike cuz he's the man to beat.

[seapro]

75 man if your sceared say it. If you show up I'll outrun your boat your truck and a foot race so you better stay home

[HankFrazier]

Now now guys, us bogalusa boys are gonna show up the same way as last time, our motors layin in the back of the truck and will have to put them together before we can even run, guess we gonna have to do like last time and start off racin the top dogs and work our way down . Hope every one is ready
SRG planning on bringing bbq pit and cook somthing win or lose we gona eat and have fun.what day ya'll gona get there. we planning on early saturday and stay until sunday.

[ima75man]

75 man if your sceared say it. If you show up I'll outrun your boat your truck and a foot race so you better stay home

sea-slow, are we guna run with your shoes on or off,i got a chevy truck, so if you got a dodge, i can't hang with you,as far as my boat goes, hope we guna use paddles because i don't want to swim and pull my boat. i'm 30 years older than you, but you better bring your lunch,because i plan on winning.let's have a hamburger eating contest.....................out

[HankFrazier]

Craig u don any testing yet.

[Riverrat001]

SRG planning on bringing bbq pit and cook somthing win or lose we gona eat and have fun.what day ya'll gona get there. we planning on early saturday and stay until sunday.

Hank what do I need to bring for the pit? Let me know so I can bring something.

[ima75man]

Hank what do I need to bring for the pit? Let me know so I can bring something.

yourself and your family..hey poor boy racing, it's not about winning or losing it's sportmanship that's counts,greatest things in the world are being with freinds and just enjoying life.if i was there ya'll all would be winners........... i would let ya'll win not

[orangebeast]

Srg prolly gonna beat us but when or lose u guys where fun to run with and hope its the same way this year

[Riverrat001]

yourself and your family..hey poor boy racing, it's not about winning or losing it's sportmanship that's counts,greatest things in the world are being with freinds and just enjoying life.if i was there ya'll all would be winners........... i would let ya'll win not

You're right. I don't care if I get beat every pass I'll have fun doing it and it won't be cuz I didn't try

[Craig Wayne]

Srg prolly gonna beat us but when or lose u guys where fun to run with and hope its the same way this year

Always

[ima75man]

Always

if you outrun me, you want get no cherry..i know, i loss one time just don't want to remember it.........

[orangebeast]

We are leavin early friday mornin. Hopin we will be able to do some test runnin when we get there

[Riverrat001]

We are leavin early friday mornin. Hopin we will be able to do some test runnin when we get there

I'm not leaving till sat morning. I think that's when most of us are leaving

[orangebeast]

We gotta put some run time on our motor, its a fresh motor and only have 3 passes on it. So far its lookin like we are bout 5 mph slower than last year.

[MWhite]

We gotta put some run time on our motor, its a fresh motor and only have 3 passes on it. So far its lookin like we are bout 5 mph slower than last year.
Yea, u mean 5mph faster, dont try to pull my leg with that one, lol

[50hptiller]

pee on my foot and tell me it raining....... i will believe ya

[HankFrazier]

we just bringing one old smokey so if any body else can bring a pit. I would like to set up our tables and pits in one spot and cook together what do ya'll think.

[orangebeast]

Would yall mind if us bogalusa boys ate with yall? We will bring what ever is needed. And yeah we got 2 new motors and they both slow as christmas. Camra man out ran me while he was filmin it

[Riverrat001]

We gotta put some run time on our motor, its a fresh motor and only have 3 passes on it. So far its lookin like we are bout 5 mph slower than last year.

Well were in the same boat. I just ran mine and it's 9 mph slower. Either the motors burnt up or my prop is tore up worse than I thought

[MWhite]

Well were in the same boat. I just ran mine and it's 9 mph slower. Either the motors burnt up or my prop is tore up worse than I thought
Dave did u find out what was wrong with it,

[Riverrat001]

Dave did u find out what was wrong with it,

No not yet. I brought my prop to coastal today and he said he'd try to have it done by Friday. I think my motor is ok but its hard to tell without tearing it apart

[MWhite]

No not yet. I brought my prop to coastal today and he said he'd try to have it done by Friday. I think my motor is ok but its hard to tell without tearing it apart
It dont take long to open it up and see, u still got time,,, better to be safe than sorry.

[MWhite]

Sure is quiet, everybody must be wrenching and getin ready.

[Riverrat001]

Sure is quiet, everybody must be wrenching and getin ready.

Nope just sitting at work with my feet propped up hoping coastal is beating on my prop getting it ready. Hopefully I can pick it up tomorrow before work so I can try it out Friday

[MWhite]

Nope just sitting at work with my feet propped up hoping coastal is beating on my prop getting it ready. Hopefully I can pick it up tomorrow before work so I can try it out Friday
He'll probably have it ready for u by then

[HankFrazier]

Nope just sitting at work with my feet propped up hoping coastal is beating on my prop getting it ready. Hopefully I can pick it up tomorrow before work so I can try it out Friday
we went and tested today tried some new stuff i think we going in the wrong direction.

[HankFrazier]

Sure is quiet, everybody must be wrenching and getin ready.
maybe everybody gona let their boats do the talking saturday.

[Riverrat001]

I hope so mike. Hopefully that's my only problem and it's back right



we went and tested today tried some new stuff i think we going in the wrong direction.

Well that's not good. turn around and go the other way.

[MWhite]

we went and tested today tried some new stuff i think we going in the wrong direction.
I know one thing that didnt work.

[MWhite]

CW u got ole lighting rigged out. Its getin close to show time weekend. ;)

[ima75man]

looks like a omc merc showdown, may the fastest boat win..be careful and remembe,,r it's not if you win or lose, it's how you play the game..............out

[orangebeast]

Yeah we tried somethin new and almost burnt up a power head, now we been 2 days tryin to get enough water to the power head

[MWhite]

Yeah we tried somethin new and almost burnt up a power head, now we been 2 days tryin to get enough water to the power head
Lower your motor 5inches and go try it, it will get water then. lol

[orangebeast]

Cant turn the prop then, ole weak ***** out omc strugglin as it is haha

[MWhite]

Cant turn the prop then, ole weak ***** out omc strugglin as it is haha
yeau, but u will get plenty of water, and giving us a chance at the same time. lol

[HankFrazier]

Cant turn the prop then, ole weak ***** out omc strugglin as it is haha
Yall pulling out somtimes tomarrow.

[orangebeast]

We leavin in the mornin, hopefully we can get some top secret test runs in

[Riverrat001]

We leavin in the mornin, hopefully we can get some top secret test runs in

It ain't top secret anymore. Guess I'm gonna have to hide in the bushes with a radar gun like ole river killer. Haha

[ima75man]

It ain't top secret anymore. Guess I'm gonna have to hide in the bushes with a radar gun like ole river killer. Haha

you guna be be setting amongst all the srg. lol even ole geneo and jackson say it ain't so

[orangebeast]

It want help, cause we slow slow.

[Riverrat001]

It want help, cause we slow slow.

Yea yea. Go try to bs somebody else cuz I know better

[MWhite]

It want help, cause we slow slow.
Hey what about that wheat guy with the 40 mercury is he comin.

[orangebeast]

The wind is bad bad over here, the hydros cant even make test passes

[HankFrazier]

The wind is bad bad over here, the hydros cant even make test passes
I watched the weather at 6 they say winds 10mph out of the north tomarrow maby won ' t be too bad.

[MWhite]

The wind is bad bad over here, the hydros cant even make test passes
I figured that its bad here too,, maybe it wont be to bad tomorrow

[orangebeast]

No testin done today

[MWhite]

No testin done today
Anybody else up there in our class

[orangebeast]

Just my omc, bill and tje other hydro guys said they would run against us if we would let them.

[MWhite]

We'll see ya'll in the morning.

[orangebeast]

Well the srg was brave enough to show up and run and ill tell yall they are runnin good

[orangebeast]

Once again i would like to thank the srg gang, they are the nicest people anyone could have to race against, the wind was still bad but we was able to make a few passes, i know no one was able to run the fastest due to the wind but it was still fun, and i think we got a good pic of us runnin 5 wide and also i think they got some videos

[MWhite]

Once again i would like to thank the srg gang, they are the nicest people anyone could have to race against, the wind was still bad but we was able to make a few passes, i know no one was able to run the fastest due to the wind but it was still fun, and i think we got a good pic of us runnin 5 wide and also i think they got some videos
charles, mr troy, and the bogalusa gang i sure had a good time down there with ya'll, and everyone else today, The wind was really bad there and no one could really do there best, but u had the orangebeast on top of its game thats for sure,,, it was smoking on today, wind or no wind i cant touch u, but had fun trying. Hope we can all get together sometime and do it again, maybe we'll have some more boats come next time. We should have a couple good videos of us 5 deep and one on one two. Bean said he went out there and outrun the hydro racer in a circle race,,,, wish i could have seen that. lol

[ima75man]

charles, mr troy, and the bogalusa gang i sure had a good time down there with ya'll, and everyone else today, The wind was really bad there and no one could really do there best, but u had the orangebeast on top of its game thats for sure,,, it was smoking on today, wind or no wind i cant touch u, but had fun trying. Hope we can all get together sometime and do it again, maybe we'll have some more boats come next time. We should have a couple good videos of us 5 deep and one on one two. Bean said he went out there and outrun the hydro racer in a circle race,,,, wish i could have seen that. lol

mike, wind or no wind,ya'll had a good time, that's what boat racing is all about...win or lose a race,,, you still a winner,,, because you raced...i made a lot of good freindships,,,with saying we got's to race again... maybe next time, more racers will show,..

[HankFrazier]

Once again i would like to thank the srg gang, they are the nicest people anyone could have to race against, the wind was still bad but we was able to make a few passes, i know no one was able to run the fastest due to the wind but it was still fun, and i think we got a good pic of us runnin 5 wide and also i think they got some videos
We had a good time both motors that the Bogalusa boys brought were bad to the bone I hope we can get together again this summer and the wind won't be so bad i really enjoyed seeing all of yall again.

[orangebeast]

From what i seen everyone who showed up had bad to the bone motors, cause they wouldnt show up if they didnt have somethin bad

[Craig Wayne]

From what i seen everyone who showed up had bad to the bone motors, cause they wouldnt show up if they didnt have somethin bad

Ok...

[orangebeast]

Tryin to get some videos and pictures up for the srg gang

[ima75man]

From what i seen everyone who showed up had bad to the bone motors, cause they wouldnt show up if they didnt have somethin bad

seems like everybody got lots of respect for each other..kool ...... thinkin... next race,, more racers will show up.. sea-pro......... i got me some almost new racing tennis shoes, so you better start getting race ready....... dead stop to 40 yards,, my best time 5.3 seconds. out

[MWhite]

We had a good time both motors that the Bogalusa boys brought were bad to the bone I hope we can get together again this summer and the wind won't be so bad i really enjoyed seeing all of yall again.
Hank how did beano do against the knee riders out there, he said he went out there and run with them for a while.

[HankFrazier]

Hank how did beano do against the knee riders out there, he said he went out there and run with them for a while.
I think he scared the hell out of the guy he was racing. Bean an't used to going round and round.But he did outrun the guy.

[MWhite]

I think he scared the hell out of the guy he was racing. Bean an't used to going round and round.But he did outrun the guy.
LOL,, i would have like to have seen that.

[orangebeast]

Bean had that hydro skeerd haha his boat does that round and round really good. Think i need a boat like that

[Riverrat001]

It was good seeing all the bougalousa gang again. I had a good time even though we didn't get to run much with the wind but that might have been a good thing so Charles didn't put it on me too many times. I think everybody needs to get a boat like mine or beans so we can race in a circle. I had a blast going round and round by myself