Global Warming: "Patently Absurd"

[Ron Hill]

ELECTION 2012
GOP candidate: Global warming is 'patently absurd'
Republican takes opposite view of Mitt Romney, who thinks mankind is responsible
Posted: June 08, 2011
8:07 pm Eastern

By Joe Kovacs
© 2011 WND


Former Congressman and current Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum is turning up the heat on the issue of man-made global warming, calling it "patently absurd," a stance putting him at odds with perceived frontrunner Mitt Romney.


Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum calls man-made global warming 'patently absurd.'
"I believe the Earth gets warmer and I also believe the Earth gets cooler, and I think history points out that it does that," Santorum said on Rush Limbaugh's radio show this afternoon.

"The idea that man – through the production of CO2 (carbon dioxide) which is a trace gas in the atmosphere, and the man-made part of that trace gas is itself a trace gas – is somehow responsible for climate change is, I think, patently absurd."

On Friday in Manchester, N.H., Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, took the opposing view.

"I believe the world is getting warmer," Romney told a crowd of about 200 at a town-hall meeting. "I can't prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer and number two, I believe that humans contribute to that. I don't know how much our contribution is to that 'cause I know there's been – there have been periods of – of greater heat and – and warmth in the past, but I believe that we contribute to that, and so I think it's important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and the global warming that you're seeing."

Limbaugh responded to Romney's remarks by saying, "Bye-bye nomination. Another one down."

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[Master Oil Racing Team]

I was concerned about Romney's liberal past and the health care bill he passed while he was gov. of Mass. I can understand why he did it at the time, although I think he was wrong, but for him to still cling to the fact that it was good except his predecessors screwed it up, us just plain lying. He's ahead in early Republican polls because the news media wants him to be. Now that he has openly declared his concerns about global warming, I hope everyone sees tha charlatin that he is. He's stated the liberal viewpoint for votes. Someone you can't trust.

I was concerned about his views before.....but now I know!

[Ron Hill]

The current regime spent a BILLION dollars getting elected. The Democrat Party will spend a BILLION dollars getting their man reelected. Hilliary considered running but knew she could not raise a BILLION dollars.

To win this coming election, there is more than ideas and concept required, there is MONEY needed.

When there are George Soros, NEA, United Auto, state unions, federal unions....Private sector workers need more than MITT ROMNEY!!!

[Master Oil Racing Team]

It's costing way too much to run for president. And what is really scary is that so much unidentified money is coming in. There was a number of unusual things that happened during the Obama run that I have never heard reported, buy I think they are tied together. This is just my opinion, but let's see if it repeats itself.

After Screaming Dean got so much money over the internet in his run for the presidency, the democrats saw a golden opportunity. You have to give Obama credit for taking internet donations to a higher level. He cleaned house. But this is where it gets scary. Six months to nearly a year out of the elections there were a series of identities stolen from banks and credit card companies. The numbers of names and identities was massive. Then some months prior to the elections, a number of people had reported that their bank account had been debited for 250.00, but then creditied back in. There were very few news reports about this, but apparently is was done all across the U.S. Most people probably never even noticed it because their accounts were not off, and they considered it a banking thing if they even caught it. Enough did though that it became a news story for a brief time, and I forget the reason the banks gave. I think it was something like a software glitch that took small amounts out of people's accounts, but it was put back in. Now here's where I come up with my conspiracy theory.;)

I noticed that Obama had an enormous about of donations over the internet for 250.00 or less. It was an abnormal amount of transactions if I remember correctly. The key is that political donations of $250.00 or less do not have to be reported. How many young people that know how to send money over the internet will have that kind of money to send. How many young people even bother to vote? A lot of the older people would just send a check, and the welfare voters arn't going to send their money to someone else. But just think of this scenario. Computer hackers in China steal hundreds of thousands of names from banks and credit card companies, then start entering the data in their computers. Hundreds of Chinese could enter all that data, then the hackers would use it to take $250.00 or less from accounts and send it via computer transaction to the Obama campaign. They then turn around and put Chinese money back into the Americans account so they wouldn't get suspicious and call the bank. Hundreds of thousands of complaints would lead to an investigation. By putting the money back, the Chinese would be able to finance Obama's election bid by laundering money through U.S. banks, and non of the transactions would have to be reported by name and address. I don't know if this really happened, but I say it's a very definite scary possiblility.:eek:

By the way, did you notice in the news last week that hundreds of thousands of identies were stolen from Sony, and their Playbook accounts? This is after a 300 thousand person identity theft in Texas several months ago.

[smittythewelder]

There is not a glaciologist on earth who will agree with Santorum. Nor any old Alaskans who live near a glacier . . . or rather, used to live near the glacier years ago. The United States Navy and Coast Guard, the Russian Navy, and the naval forces of Scandanavia and Canada all employ numbers of Arctic specialists, and none of them will agree with Santorum.

What cracks me up (as an old Goldwater campaigner) is having seen the days long ago in the Fifties and early Sixties, when conservation, the old word for concerns over the preservation of the the natural world and the waste of natural resources, and over looming global over-population, was a Republican issue!! Today's GOP, with its cast of conspiracy theorists, theocrats, and buffoonish Saturday Night Live candidates, would be unrecognizable to the intelligent, capable men who lead it in a different era; Ike, Goldwater, Nixon, and Ford.

[zul8tr]

A huge majority for over a millinum believed that the planets and the Sun revolved around the Earth, but a few (Copernicus, Galileo, etc) believed they were wrong and time proved the few correct. There were even many as far back as Aristotle that believed projectiles were pushed thru the air by some unknown force once they left the influence of the propelling force provider. This theory made its way to Greek javilins and they incorporated blunt backs to aid their travel thru the air :rolleyes:

The proportion of man's influence on the climate compared to natural causes from the Sun is still under debate by many reputable researchers and differing opinions will continue because it will never be satisfactorily determined. Granted there is some man made influence to climate change but to be influenced by turning the natural forces by the puney efforts of man borders on futile and at a great cost that the world would sink to support. Just think of the environmental damage another Krakatoa volcano would do :eek: and man can not prevent such catastrophies and they will happen it's just a matter of when.

None the less it is up to the indivudual to be respectful of the earth and take personal responsibility to do there best to pertect this planet in a reasonable and common sense way, if that's reasonably possible. with all the hype that displaces clear rthought :)

[smittythewelder]

There's plenty of hype, oh yes!! Great volumes of it issue forth from political-entertainment blowhards on radio and internet. Their qualifications to opinionate on very complex scientific research may be compared to the flat-earth crowd you mentioned.

But of course, the overwhelming majority of scientists actually involved in studying the global warming evidence obviously are mere faddists, blindly following each other. Scientists, as we know, are mainly interested in shaking down the system for grants, and once they succeed, will amuse themselves with zany and bogus "research" that just costs all of us ordinary folks (who have common sense automatically because we're ordinary, and haven't been brainwashed by all those communistic professors).

Well, at least with all those scientists, working with all our money, they are occasionally going to get lucky and do something worthwhile. When I was a kid, you'd run into people who had contracted polio, which you don't see now, oh, or smallpox either, which used to be a little bit of a problem. Yeah, alright, they did develop the organic chemistry for the plastic in this laptop, and the semiconductors and the vapor deposition techniques to manufacture the chips, and so on, so there's that. Okay, and they did come up with botanical breakthroughs we call the Green Revolution that have managed so far to keep up with feeding the seven billion humans, which is good because each and every one of those seven billion is precious, and contraception is contrary to the wishes of the Higher Authority, not to mention Nancy and Ronnie's psychic friend.

But those are the exceptions, and mostly the scientists just line their own pockets while insulting our common sense by telling us that life on earth is far more than six thousand or so years old, and that our great grandfathers were chimpanzees. Yes, clear thinking is certainly in danger from the endless hype of the scientists!!

[Master Oil Racing Team]

The breakthroughs you put forth Smitty were all put through rigorous and observable tests. Something that could be evaluated and repeated by others. The global warming hoax is based on unscientific and manipulated facts, and will change according to after-the-fact measurements or false and misleading data. When I was in college, the midwest was supposed to be under glaciers before the turn of the century. Since it became obvious in the mid 80's that wasn't going to happen, the junk scientists had to change their strategy to global warming. Sure the earth heats up, just as it cools down. The oceans are the thermostats. The sun is the heater, the clouds and moisture is the cooler, along with hurricanes to dissipate heat and move it northward.

You are right about the scientists that can't continue to go to school all their lives, so break out and get involved in "research" to stay living on government grants. These are the ones that aren't smart enough, or ambitious enough to work for companies that produce real benefits to mankind. Instead they get money to study shrimp on a treadmill, whether or not plants have feelings and grow better listening to Mozart or Ozzie Osborne, Hinduism vs. dolphins squeaking, etc. We are being "had" by junk science, including those idiots at Center for Science in the Public Interest. Their goal is manipulating an ignorant public through false and misleading claims in the interest of a socialist agenda. You can see some of their work now in school cafeterias with the "Food Police. Exposing these creeps will eventually dry up their misuse of public (ie taxpayers) money.

[smittythewelder]

Hoaxers!

Well, somebody took the trouble to go back and survey the peer-reviewed papers and the critiques of that time, and found that a rather small minority of those involved believed in global cooling, despite a thirty-year cycle of cooling that was coming to an end then. More scientists, as cited in 1968 by the since-much-maligned Paul Erlich in 1968, expected a greenhouse effect. Of course the press, which never is very good at reporting the caveats which scientists always attach to predictions based on geologically short-term evidence, went for the headlines. Newsweek famously did a cover article about a cooling earth, a coming ice-age; the current editors have retroactively appologised for that issue's sloppy coverage. At least one of the younger scientists who took the lead in suggesting a cooling earth forty years ago has explained how he got it wrong then. And a Scandanavian scientist (my elderly brain can't pull up the name now and I just read it the other night) who the right-wing bloggers have cited for some years as a noted global warming denier is a denier no longer. They must have decided it pays better to be in on the hoax. And more fun! Wouldn't you like to have been in on creating that whole "moon landing" hoax ("Houston, the Eagle has landed")?!!

If you get up to Seattle, Wayne, I can take you see a local favorite landmark for tourists and spelunkers when I was a boy, the wonderful Paradise Ice Caves system near Mt. Rainier. Oh wait, I can't, they're all melted. (Sure, it's irrelevant to cite one instance in one place. It was irrelevant for the non-scientist believers in global warming to cite Hurricane Katrina as "proof". But that's the way the issue is argued outside of scientific circles).

Obviously we're not going to agree on global warming. But we could probably go through a list of proposed actions that the greenies want us to take against global warming and find that we would agree that many of them make good sense for other reasons, among them being CONSERVING energy, which would seem natural to CONSERVATIVES . . . and it was, fifty years ago.

I enjoyed imagining being a thoroughly modern "conservative" in my previous post!! But dang, I see I forgot to worry about THEM taking away my guns, and a few other things. But it has been hard to keep up worrying about those far-Right warnings decade after decade. Oh, yeah, all those years ago the far Right had its well-paid demogogues, too. Where now you have Robertson and Rush and Glenn and the Tea Party, back then you had Robert Welch, Billy James Hargis, Dr. Fred Schwartz, and Liberty Lobby. That was fifty and more years ago that we were being told that if we kept electing the wrong people we would all end up under socialist (if not communist) dictatorship, with the liberal bureaucrats putting mind-control drugs in our water along with the flouride.

Common sense? Goldwater (who scorned the above named opinionaters as "nuts") was wrong sometimes, but he had common sense. Religion was one's own business, best kept to one's self, and not appropriate in government. Abortion, revolting, but the woman's decision in the end. What does "conservative common sense" include today? Keeping a brain-dead Florida woman endlessly alive at hideous expense. Worrying that a five day old ball of fetal cells called a blastocyst has a "soul" and therefore let's watch China and other unenlightened countries become the experts on stem-cell research (credit Nancy Reagan, of all people, for calling b---s--t on that one!).

On hoaxes:

Hint: No one will take away your guns or mine (55 year old prediction, so far) in our lifetimes.

Hint: There will not be one-world socialist government or anything remotely resembling it in our lifetimes (55 and 30 year old predictions, so far).

Hint: Government bureaucrats will not attempt subliminal or chemical mind-control schemes to turn conservatives into docile liberal stooges (despite 50 years of putting flouride in the water, so far) ( . . . which I didn't agree with, BTW; it does stop tooth rot, but it rots the pipes).

Hint: Jesus of Nazareth will not appear among us to take away the faithful in our lifetimes (2000 year old prediction, so far).

I never have expected liberals to have a lot of good ideas, but I would not have guessed that the hair-brained notions of the far Right fifty years ago would be mainstream "conservativism" today. How has this happened?:confused:

[zul8tr]

Will a 1000 or more monkeys punching at random on type writers turn out an equivelent Shakespear sonnet? Maybe. Will a 1000 or more scientests turn out something valuable to man while researching something entirely different? Yes history has proved that. But those were relatively small research studies that did not put huge worldly resources (natural resourses, $$$$$, etc.) at issue, nor did they deal with the major natural cycles of the earth, sun and the solar system and mother nature that usually wins in that regard. Heck we are still trying to predict weather 5 days out with better than the flip of a coin much less climate years to come.

This global warming issue (which I agree is happening, but the contribution due to man is the debate) willl effect the world as to these resources so we need to tread carefully before such a commitment to these vast resources is made. Be careful what you wish for it just might happen, then Krakatoa :eek: or something else :eek::eek: that surely is beyond our control blows all our feeble fixits to .....?

[Mark75H]

Exactly ... pride goeth before a fall

[smittythewelder]

Monkeys should come a lot cheaper than scientists; you may be on to something there.

After stating that the glaciologists, who should know something about their trade, would disagree to a man with Santorum, who knows how to stir up the New Right, I got the message that I probably have as little handle on Real science (the science of Rush and Glenn??) as classical Greek javelin throwers, am being bamboozled by a vast conspiracy by junk-scientists to hoax all of us, and need to come up with the common sense that produces clear thinking (re. Rush, Glenn, etc,). And that's fine; my feeling is that friends ought to be able to abuse each other about their wacky politics. It does mystify me that conservatives of my youth were worried about the environment at a time when the Democrats weren't at all interested, whereas today's "conservatives" are knee-jerk anti-environmentals, automatically opposing any ideas coming from the greenies. That's understandable (if dumb), since the greenies are mostly Leftists, but when the Right shouts down mainstream science, starting with the plain fact of evolution, and currently on the gathering evidence of global warming, ideology has been substituted for your common sense and clear thought.

Over and over, the environmentalists propose some idea that Might have some ameliorative effect on accumulating greenhouse gases . . . AND would also have an effect on energy independence and other matters that the Right agrees are practical. And every time, the Right comes up with the same knee-jerk response; "Wind-power! That'll never make us energy inependent! Sun-power! That'll never do!", and end up at "drill, baby, drill".
Well any racer should know the answer to that: the Hundred Pound Rule of Motor Racing--"There's no place you can take a hundred pounds out of the car/boat/whatever; but there might be one hundred places you can take out one pound". To solve any of these promlems we need to work in increments. The old conservationists would have got this immediately. But giving an inch to one's political foes, giving them any credit for any idea at all, is not part of the New Right's operation (well, unless you find that you can turn a dollar on it;)).

Actually (since I believe in giving credit where due), that has altered slightly. Some of the evangelical leaders, of all people, after many years of knee-jerk opposition to environmentalism (and reading exciting "last days" pot-boilers!), have come around to the idea that it might be smart to inconvenience ourselves somewhat, and even spend money, to practice a bit of environmental hygiene. Oh, well, maybe they have finally fallen for the hoaxers.

The Russians have as well, but they expect to benefit from global warming. Not only will Siberia thaw out, but the Russians will realize a centuries-long wish that ten thousand miles of northern coastline will become accessible and navigable.

Finally (after which I'm done), an idea: get your global warming skeptics to each donate a grand to the Santorum campaign, with the proviso that he pull strings and arrange for you a visit to the Pentagon. There you can explain to the admirals and generals how they are being taken in by the scientific scammers, and need to start applying common sense and clear thought. If the admirals feel they have time, they might show you their recently declassified aerial photos, taken over the North Slope and Brooks Range in Alaska by a hired twin-Beech during WW2. They will point out that botanists have studied these photos and compared the nature of the ground cover then and now, and pointed out how multiple species of formerly sub-arctic plant life have taken over there.

Or they might just laugh you out of the building, having themselves been thoroughly brainwashed by the botanists.

It's been fun:)

[Mark75H]

There is consensus that the earth is warming ... what is being debated is the cause

[Master Oil Racing Team]

Was warming. The trend is not on a continued upward path. Let's see where we are in a few years.

[Ron Hill]

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[zul8tr]

Monkeys should come a lot cheaper than scientists; you may be on to something there.

After stating that the glaciologists, who should know something about their trade, would disagree to a man with Santorum, who knows how to stir up the New Right, I got the message that I probably have as little handle on Real science (the science of Rush and Glenn??) as classical Greek javelin throwers, am being bamboozled by a vast conspiracy by junk-scientists to hoax all of us, and need to come up with the common sense that produces clear thinking (re. Rush, Glenn, etc,). And that's fine; my feeling is that friends ought to be able to abuse each other about their wacky politics. It does mystify me that conservatives of my youth were worried about the environment at a time when the Democrats weren't at all interested, whereas today's "conservatives" are knee-jerk anti-environmentals, automatically opposing any ideas coming from the greenies. That's understandable (if dumb), since the greenies are mostly Leftists, but when the Right shouts down mainstream science, starting with the plain fact of evolution, and currently on the gathering evidence of global warming, ideology has been substituted for your common sense and clear thought.

Over and over, the environmentalists propose some idea that Might have some ameliorative effect on accumulating greenhouse gases . . . AND would also have an effect on energy independence and other matters that the Right agrees are practical. And every time, the Right comes up with the same knee-jerk response; "Wind-power! That'll never make us energy inependent! Sun-power! That'll never do!", and end up at "drill, baby, drill".
Well any racer should know the answer to that: the Hundred Pound Rule of Motor Racing--"There's no place you can take a hundred pounds out of the car/boat/whatever; but there might be one hundred places you can take out one pound". To solve any of these promlems we need to work in increments. The old conservationists would have got this immediately. But giving an inch to one's political foes, giving them any credit for any idea at all, is not part of the New Right's operation (well, unless you find that you can turn a dollar on it;)).

Actually (since I believe in giving credit where due), that has altered slightly. Some of the evangelical leaders, of all people, after many years of knee-jerk opposition to environmentalism (and reading exciting "last days" pot-boilers!), have come around to the idea that it might be smart to inconvenience ourselves somewhat, and even spend money, to practice a bit of environmental hygiene. Oh, well, maybe they have finally fallen for the hoaxers.

The Russians have as well, but they expect to benefit from global warming. Not only will Siberia thaw out, but the Russians will realize a centuries-long wish that ten thousand miles of northern coastline will become accessible and navigable.

Finally (after which I'm done), an idea: get your global warming skeptics to each donate a grand to the Santorum campaign, with the proviso that he pull strings and arrange for you a visit to the Pentagon. There you can explain to the admirals and generals how they are being taken in by the scientific scammers, and need to start applying common sense and clear thought. If the admirals feel they have time, they might show you their recently declassified aerial photos, taken over the North Slope and Brooks Range in Alaska by a hired twin-Beech during WW2. They will point out that botanists have studied these photos and compared the nature of the ground cover then and now, and pointed out how multiple species of formerly sub-arctic plant life have taken over there.

Or they might just laugh you out of the building, having themselves been thoroughly brainwashed by the botanists.

It's been fun:)

Verbose :confused: is not as clear as straight forward, ex The Gettysberg Address, Declaration of Independence, and ..............................., verbose would be Obama Care, tax code, etc ;).

[Mark75H]

Then you should have awarded extra points to me for this:


There is consensus that the earth is warming ... what is being debated is the cause

[PopPop]

How could anyone know more than the folks here on boatracingfacts.com

[Original Looper 1]

Please take the time during this joyous Father's day (for many) to reflect on the possibility that there may be people in the world that you don't know or recognize their names, that very well may be thinking about you as they meet behind closed doors.

The following link may be a good way for you to better understand the bigger picture that you, willingly or not, are a participant of:

http://www.domasjefferson.com/news/bilderberg-2011-discussions-leaked-via-moles-inside


I personally think the time in which far too many Americans think softly and carry a big debt may be coming to an uncomfortable economic conclusion.

Regards,

Paul


ps: I suggest you google the words Bilderberg + carbon tax aka cap & trade, and see what comes up. :mad:

[zul8tr]

Then you should have awarded extra points to me for this:

Consice writing is eloquence of the pen.
You are awarded extra points ;)

[zul8tr]

Please take the time during this joyous Father's day (for many) to reflect on the possibility that there may be people in the world that you don't know or recognize their names, that very well may be thinking about you as they meet behind closed doors.

The following link may be a good way for you to better understand the bigger picture that you, willingly or not, are a participant of:

http://www.domasjefferson.com/news/bilderberg-2011-discussions-leaked-via-moles-inside


I personally think the time in which far too many Americans think softly and carry a big debt may be coming to an uncomfortable economic conclusion.

Regards,

Paul


ps: I suggest you google the words Bilderberg + carbon tax aka cap & trade, and see what comes up. :mad:

The conclusion is reminisent of the movie "Colossus the Forbin Project" where the Rissian computer gets together with Dr Forbin's US computer and they mate in one big cybercation and merge as one all knowing and seeing super computer that rules the world with man as it slave :eek:. :eek:

[smittythewelder]

Verbose? Well that points up another disconnect between them days and these days in which magazines and newspapers have become empty shells, barely staying alive, as the majority "informs" itself with sound-bites and slogans, and discusses said information via tweets. Not for me. Emphatically not for the Founders, who could make a statement of principle with elegant economy, but who wrote each other lots of long-winded letters, and published analyses of the issues they were considering that ran to multiple volumes. Sorry it was too much for you. Won't happen again. Bye.

[PopPop]

When scientists take to the streets it’s time to listen up
Posted on 20 June 2011 by John Cook
CLEARING UP THE CLIMATE DEBATE: Dr Michael Brown exposes the tactics used by purveyors of “non-science” to attack climate change research.
It takes a lot to get scientists out of their offices and marching on Parliament.
But in recent weeks that’s exactly what some of Australia’s top researchers have taken to doing.
Former Governor of Victoria and scientist David de Kretser brought an open letter to Parliament House last week and just today the Federation of Australian Science and Technological Societies (FASTS) has launched its Respect the Science campaign from the same location.
The Federation claims that attacks on climate scientists are “undermining the national building work of all scientists.”
The Conversation has also hosted an open letter from dozens of concerned scientists trying to get the message across that human-induced climate change is a real threat.
So what is it that has got our science community so riled up?
It might be something to do with the death threats many climate scientists have been receiving. CEO of FASTS Anna Maria Arabia was on the wrong end of one just this morning.
But for many, it’s simply the tactics of “the other side” of the climate change debate that has spurred on their public demonstrations.
When the forces of non-science are this strong, it’s time for scientists to respond.
Cherries and missing ingredients
Those denying the science of climate change present arguments that appear scientific, with measurements, theories, statistics and jargon.
But many of those denying climate change are not truly doing science.
Science tries to provide the simplest explanation for a wealth of measurements in the natural world.
Non-science, on the other hand, cherry-picks evidence. A classic example is only plotting a few years of temperature records, rather than the past 150 years.
When non-science tries to describe all the observations, it requires contrived explanations as it attempts to avoid the simplest scientific explanation. Ian Plimer invokes underwater volcanoes to increase atmospheric carbon dioxide, but the numbers required are vast compared to the actual number of volcanoes.
Purveyors of non-science charge that thousands of scientists are ignorant of basic science.
This would be shocking, if it were not patently false.
A central claim of climate change denial is that the physics of thermodynamics is in conflict with climate models. Even a quick Google search reveals that this claim has been refuted many times.
So why is this false claim continually repeated?
I can only speculate. Perhaps it is now a negative political catchphrase, which is repeated often so it can be confused with truth.
Practitioners of non-science loudly proclaim that climate models cannot be trusted, as they are missing key components.
When subjected to scrutiny, these supposed key ingredients are often speculative and not backed by robust evidence. To include speculative theories in climate models would only make the models less trustworthy, not more so.
The medium, message and messenger
The practitioners of non-science claim peer review is used to enforce groupthink. This is not the case.
Most scientists review as thoroughly and impartially as possible because peer review is central to the health of science.
Many scientists will recall reviewing papers where they doubted the conclusions but accepted the paper, as there were no obvious flaws in the method, data and theory used.
Both sides of the climate debate communicate to the public via the media, and this is at the crux of recent activism on the part of Australian scientists.
Science uses media to communicate results from science journals to the public and policy makers. Non-science uses the media as its principal means of communicating its conclusions. But often, both get equal play.
Press releases, popular articles, books, letters, websites and think tank reports do not undergo peer review. Conclusions may not be backed up by sound methodology, accurate data and appropriate use of theories.
Personal attacks, rhetorical flourishes, witticisms and point scoring make good copy, but do not alter the basic science.
If the media is the only means being used to present supposed scientific results, there are good reasons to be suspicious.
Letters signed by esteemed scientists can highlight that an issue is important. But there are millions of scientists, so it is not surprising each side can muster hundreds of signatories.
Think tanks are often present in the climate debate, but these organisations are often ideologically driven and associated with particular political beliefs.
At best, think tanks present science that is consistent with their political beliefs. At worst, think tanks commission reports and books that are politically motivated non-science.
A sceptical view of think tanks is probably better justified than a sceptical view of climate science.
It’s all a mistake
Non-science claims science is not to be trusted.
To back this claim they provide examples of where there have been paradigm shifts in science; relativity, dinosaur extinction, plate tectonics and the causes of ulcers.
But there are stark differences between these paradigm shifts and the current climate debate.
When paradigm shifts have occurred, often the evidence for the prevailing theory had been weak.
Paradigm shifts have also been accompanied by robust evidence contrary to the prevailing theory. For example, relativity was preceded by precision measurements of the constant speed of light.
In contrast, those denying climate change only use weak evidence.
Classic non-science evidence includes plots where temperature appears to vary along with something other than carbon dioxide. Such plots can be suspect.
If one generates large numbers of plots, one can find apparent correlations between two unrelated quantities.
For example, the increasing number of HIV infections has been accompanied by an increasing number of personal computers. Only a fool would suggest one directly causes the other.
In contrast to randomly generating plots, climate science makes predictions for the relationship between carbon dioxide levels, air temperature and sea level rise.
Observations are then be used to test these predictions and significant discrepancies are always investigated.
This is how good science is done.
If it takes a march to the halls of government to highlight the different between good science and non-science, then that is what the scientific community must do.

[Mark75H]

And the emails among the pro man caused warming admitting they falsified data to make it falsely show warming and human causality?

Where does that fit into "good" science?

[Powerabout]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229740/Hackers-expose-global-warming-Claims-leaked-emails-reveal-research-centre-massaged-temperature-data.html

There was so much 50 50 science ( by scientists) the Euro goverments forced a convention where they said this is the meeting to make concensus.
In the background they made it plainly obvious that funding to science would be reduced if they didnt toe the goverments line.
The EU goverments are only interested in creating a new tax, none of them are interested or doing anything about a reduction in pollutants

Many scientist have just become salesmen for their goverments tax packages

[Master Oil Racing Team]

Well said. It's the lazy and incompetent scientists that spend all their lives going to school on government grants because they don't have the intellegence or gumption to make the leap of going out on their own into the cruel world of employment by companies who thing they can contribute. Or they have an agenda and have a keen awareness of what data they can use to support their theories, and what can be cast aside. Both groups know that they can make a very good living at being either an incompetent sidekick, or a kick a$$ pusher of climate change. Neither group actually puts forward the truth that climate change is cyclical, and not caused by humans.

[Powerabout]

I agree
How much CO just went up from Chile?
Imagine if there was a global tax on that for the Chileans to pay

[Original Looper 1]

Note: The article below contains many relevant charts and graphs which did not copy over to the BRF forum. To read the story WITH the charts/graphs, go to:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/climategate.php


CLIMATEGATE: A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY (UPDATED FOR 2011)by Michael Rivero
www.Whatreallyhappened.com

1: Climategate: The Mother of All Deceptions"

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken (1918)

"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have."
-- Richard Salent, Former President CBS News.

The recent exposures of fraud coming from the Hadley Climate Research Unit, then followed by similar exposures at New Zealand's NWIA, Australia's climate center, and NOAA have only confirmed the doubts arising from the obviously NON-scientific methods employed by the Anthropogenic Global Warming supporters, hereinafter called the "Global Warming Cult". I call them a cult because of the abandonment of scientific method by many of the acolytes, together with a recent British Court decision that declared belief in Global Warming was accorded the status of a religion.

Human Caused Global Warming is not being researched; it is being promoted. Al Gore and his fellow investors have spent over a hundred million dollars in creating a crisis of human-caused global warming out of (quite literally) thin air. They are not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They expect to reap billions in profits from the trading of Carbon Credits, a "license to pollute" available for a price and subject to brokerage fees. One of the people Al Gore relied on to create this scheme was Ken Lay, late of ENRON, aka the Crooked "E". Al Gore plans to use Carbon Dioxide to do to the world what Ken Lay did to California using electricity; loot the people!

Coincident with the desire to reap huge profits from the general population of the world is the agenda to promote a global government. Currently, the push for a global government rests on three pillars, Global Warming is one of them, leading to a surrendering of national sovereignty attempted at the Copenhagen Conference December 7th, 2009 (but temporarily delayed when the conference was hit with a major blizzard). The other two pillars exploited to create the "need" for a global government are a global swine-flu pandemic, requiring a global health organization, and a global financial crisis, requiring a global bank. The political power behind this push for global government is immense; enough to win Al Gore an Academy Award and a Nobel Peace Prize for his film, "An Inconvenient Truth", despite a court ruling pointing out the numerous provable lies and distortions in it.

To any real objective observer, the methods employed by the Cult are not those of science and research but of salesmanship and propaganda. Scare tactics are well in evidence. To anyone of an age enough to recall previous scare campaigns, the hue and cry for Anthropogenic Global Warming is reminiscent of "Killer Bees" and Y2K scares of yesteryear.

To put it bluntly, Anthropogenic Global Warming is a load of government-sponsored bovine excrement. Its purpose is to trick you out of money and into obedience. And despite the shrill cries of those who insist that government would never conceive or let along execute such a monstrous fraud upon the people, the fact is that Anthropogenic Global Warming has a very long pedigree of deception behind it.


Here are some examples.

2: Ancient Lies

Ramses and the Hittites

In Egypt, one of the greatest surviving monuments (and source of tourism revenues) is the great temple at Abu Simbel. Built by Ramses II, known as Ramses the Great (by his own admission), the walls at Abu Simbel are carved with a unique style called “sunken relief”, a method of artwork that was less expensive than full bas relief and more difficult to erase. And there, depicted in indelible sunken relief cross the walls and pylons of Abu Simbel are scenes of Ramses the Great, victorious in battle against the Hittites at the battle of Kadesh. Immortalized in stone is his victory for all to see. Similar carvings at Abydos and Luxor also show Ramses defeating the Hittites at Kadesh.

Except …

Ramses the Great didn't defeat anyone at Kadesh. Fed false information by Hittite spies, Ramses led his men into a trap and barely avoided losing his entire army. Ramses was forced to sign a peace treaty with the Hittites (the first non-aggression treaty in history), ending Egypt's expansion into the north.
Ramses, like any head of state, had a huge ego and together with not wishing to appear less than godlike to his population (who were taught that he was a God), Ramses promoted the idea that the battle in Kadesh had been a great victory for Egypt, certain that most Egyptians lacked the means to actually travel to Kadesh and find out for themselves what the truth was. (The Canaanites did find out, and emboldened by Ramses' lack of victory, revolted, thereby ending Egypt's dominion beyond the Sinai.)

There is a motto here. Rulers serve bovine excrement to their own people in order to control them. That is a fact carved in stone for all to see, 3200 years ago. It is no less true today than it was in the time of the pharaohs.

The Donation of Constantine

Prior to the time of Constantine, Kingship was either won in battle or inherited from father to son. There was no specific ceremony upon taking the throne (although one finds records of some very wild parties held in celebration). But in the time of Constantine, the church invented for itself the ritual of coronation, in which the Bishop of Rome prayed over Constantine and then slapped a crown on his head, thereby sending out a clear message that the church claimed responsibility for Constantine 's earthly power and authority.

Following Constantine 's death, a document appeared in which Constantine purportedly donated the imperial regalia of Rome to the church, with the request that it be “loaned” to all future rulers of the Roman Empire . From that day on, the loan took the form of the ritual of coronation, in which the holy oil of anointment created the king, rather than conquest or the bloodline. Coronation added the imprimatur of God's will to the legitimacy of the monarch, and as an inevitable corollary, nobody could ascend to the throne without the permission and blessing of the church.

Except …

Constantine had not been informed ahead of time of his own coronation and by all accounts was rather shocked and angered by the church's brazen attempt to portray his civil authority as a gift of their religion. As for the donation of Constantine, which literally reshaped the political history of Europe for half a millennium, it was a forgery, most likely written within the Papal offices, to steal for the church the “right” to declare who would or would not be kings of Europe.

There is a motto here. Bovine Excrement is shoveled out of places besides the civil government.

Prester John

In the 1130s, the Turkish Empire under the leadership of Imad ad-din Zengi began to encroach on the Crusader Kingdoms of the Holy Land . Most Crusaders considered their vows to the first Holy Crusade fulfilled and had already returned to Europe, leaving the Pilgrim road from Jaffa to Jerusalem under the guard of the newly emergent Knights Templar (who seemed to spend all their time digging under the Temple Mount). The Knights Templar, although able to guard a road when not shoveling dirt, were insufficient a force to hold off an entire invasion, and in 1145, Hugh, Bishop of Jabala, was sent to meet the newly enthroned Pope Blessed Eugene III to ask for help. Pope Eugene, far less bloodthirsty than his predecessors, balked at a new and costly crusade so soon after the last one. Hugh told the Pope that a new crusade to preserve Christian dominion over the Holy Lands would be easy and cheap, because somewhere far to the east of the Holy Lands was the Kingdom of Prester John .

Prester (or Presbyter) John was a Christian King; a direct descendant of one of the Magi who had visited the infant Jesus, and reportedly whose kingdom was powerful, wealthy, and peaceful. According to Hugh, Prester John was committed to preserving Christian rule over the Holy Lands, and awaited only a sign of equal commitment from the armies of Europe .

Rumors of the impending intervention of Prester John bolstered the courage of the Christians of the Crusader Kingdoms and of Europe, and based in part on the promise of Prester John as an ally, Pope Eugene launched the Second Holy Crusade, led by Louis VII of France and Conrad III of Germany .

But Prester John did not show up as promised. The Second Crusade ended in the rout of the Crusader armies at Damascus, and the Christians found themselves holding less of the Holy Lands.

In 1165, just as the situation in the Holy Lands began to deteriorate further, a letter began to circulate around Europe purportedly from Prester John. The letter again promised support for the Christian armies of Europe . The letter included descriptions of the wonders of Prester John's kingdom. The letter was so popular it was copied far and wide, and portions of it set to music!

But again, Prester John did not show up when promised, and in 1187 Jerusalem fell to Saladin. This prompted the start of the Third Crusade. Once again, rumors of Prester John's armies attacking the Muslims from the East bolstered the invading forces.

Except …

Prester John was the invention of the church; a propaganda device to trick Europeans to join a war in which they were clearly outnumbered by the opposing force. As Marco Polo and other travelers brought tales of the Orient back to Europe in the 13th century, church leaders grew alarmed as Christians learned of powerful and advanced civilizations to the east that existed without any awareness of Christianity. Following a brief period when the Dominicans unsuccessfully denounced Marco Polo‘s writings as heresy and fraud, the church again revived the legends of Prester John to prove that Christianity did rule in the far east. Highly fanciful maps were produced of just where Prester John's kingdom would be found.

The legends of Prester John persisted from the 12th to the 17th centuries even though John himself could not have lived that long. Numerous expeditions to find the Kingdom of Prester John were mounted, all without success. As the map of Asia became filled in accurately with no sign of the fabled Christian Kingdom, the legend was altered to claim that Prester John's Kingdom was actually in Ethiopia, then as the African map started to fill in, further south in “Darkest Africa.” The realm of Prester John eventually became one of the fabled “Lost Kingdoms of Africa ” that lured explorers into the Congo, often to their deaths.

As for the letter purportedly from Prester John; like the Donation of Constantine it was a clever forgery. In its original version it was apparently derived mostly from Otto von Freisingen's historical account of the story told by Hugh, Bishop of Jabala to Pope Eugene. The story of Prester John's palace was actually a description of the palace of St. Thomas the Apostle. As the letter was recopied through the centuries, the stories it contained grew ever more fanciful, filled with strange and wonderful creatures and amazing feats of magic and science. In the 18th century these stories of the land of Prester John were revived as part of the tales of Baron Munchausen. In 1988, the stories of the land of Prester John again surfaced in Terry Gilliam's film, “ The Adventures of Baron Munchausen .”

The motto here is: A really big lie can last a long time, and there may even be a movie deal in it!

The Seven Cities of Gold

In the year 711, General Tarik ibn Ziyad led his forces across from Africa to Iberia, and commencing with ‘Tarik's Mountain' (Gibraltar) conquered all of Spain in mere months. As would be the case with the Templars following their arrest and execution by Philip Le Belle, stories abounded of the treasures of the Spanish Churches smuggled away from the invading armies by seven Bishops and hidden from view.

Then, following Columbus' discovery of the New World, and perhaps in the realization that whatever it was Columbus had discovered on the far side of the Atlantic was not the Indies he had originally promised, a new story began to surface that the Seven Bishops who had fled Spain in 711 had somehow made their way to the New World, and used their treasure to found Seven Christian cities. Like the Kingdom of Prester John, these were rumored to be cities of immense wealth.

The lure of these mythical cities aided the Spanish explorers in recruiting men for the dangerous business of sailing the Atlantic followed by conquest of an unknown land. A shipwrecked sailor, Cabeza de Vaca, claimed to have seen cities decorated with huge gems. Following Vaca's descriptions, Fray Marc os de Niza in 1539 claimed to have seen cities with tall gold buildings. It is possible that Niza actually saw adobe buildings shining with silica and pyrite in the sunlight from a distance, but following the killing of his servant avoided close approach to the indigenous people. Despite the absence of provenance, the stories of the Seven Cities of Gold drew both Cortez and Coronado deeper into the new world. The natives quickly realized the lethality of denying the existence of the cities of gold, and simply pointed the Spaniards further inland, promising that the cities were just over the next mountain range.



Except….

There were no cities of gold. They were a propaganda device used to motivate the explorers' crews in the conquest of the New World, and while they did find gold, the real result of the tale of the Seven Cities of Gold was that Spain pushed all the way into what is now California and New Mexico.

The motto here is that even with gold plating, bovine excrement remains bovine excrement.

The Witches

In the year 1200, Europe entered a period of prolonged cooling which lasted until the mid 1800s. This is called the “Little Ice Age.” Europeans did not understand climate, and owing to theocratic rule following the collapse of Rome had turned their backs on science. All that happened was presumed the will of God. Priests prayed to God to halt the glaciers advancing on the villages. But as the villages succumbed to the ice, the church, rather than admit to failure, began to blame supernatural magical forces for the increasing cold. Seeking a scapegoat, the church set upon those individuals who still held knowledge outside that allowed by the churches. These educated and wise people, people with “wit” were declared heretics and “witches.” A phrase in the Bible, “Thou shalt not suffer a poisoner to live” was re-translated into “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live”, and the church now had the perfect scapegoat to blame the unstoppable cold on.



For the next three centuries, up until the incident at Salem, Massachusetts, innocent people were blamed by the church for everything that went wrong. If something bad happened that God could not make go away, it was because of the witches. Cold weather? Blame the witches. Plagues? Blame the witches. Failed crops and livestock? Blame the witches.

Witch-hunting became a full time profession. The accusers and prosecutors grew rich on the confiscated wealth of the condemned. Politicians, business competitors, and even jealous wives quickly learned that they could dispose of a rival with impunity with a simple accusation of witchcraft.

Except…

There are no witches as conceptualized by the church. No witches able to hop on a broomstick and interfere with passenger jets. No witch was ever able to transform himself or herself into an animal. It is all make-believe, and it makes for great books and fun movies, but the evil crimes depicted in the Maleus Malificarum never occurred. The confessions on which the church assurances of witchcraft were based were extracted under torture, some forms of which are sadly still in use in the United States today. Yes, there are people who like to call themselves witches, but their craft at most is limited to natural medicines and midwifery.

For three centuries religiously induced terror and horror stalked across the landscape in Europe. As the grains and cereals on which Europe had fed failed, much hardier potatoes were introduced. But the church declared them the food of the devil because they grew in the ground. Millions starved standing on an abundant food supply, afraid that eating the potato would condemn their souls to hell. When the plagues hit Europe, religious flagellants traveled from town to town, spreading the disease in the droplets of blood flung from the ends of their whips. As the epidemic accelerated in the wake of such rituals, the church fanned the blood-lust for the witches.

Nobody really knows how many people were tortured and killed during the witch trials. The numbers increase and decrease depending on the agenda of who is reporting the numbers. Conservative estimates of victims executed for being witches is a quarter of a million. Estimates of those tortured and then released are considerably higher.

Of all the madness and self-delusions man has collectively engaged in, the search for and execution of witches stands as a monument to all that is dark and fearful in the human mind. A few grew rich and powerful while around them a million people writhed in agony and death. If there is a moral to be found here it is that the execution of accused witches in Mexico in the 1990s (and the evils of Guantanamo Bay) proves that we are not as far from the rack and the stake as we would like to pretend. We comfort ourselves with the idea that the dark ages are long ago and far removed from our modern enlightened age, but the truth is that fanatics can tear down civilization rather quickly. You burn the Library at Alexandria, flay the librarian alive, burn the rest of the books to heat the public baths and set fire to anyone who refuses to bow to the bovine excrement.



More Recent Deceptions



President McKinley told the American people that the USS Maine had been sunk in Havana Harbor by a Spanish mine. The American people, outraged by this apparent unprovoked attack, supported the Spanish American War. The Captain of the USS Maine had insisted the ship was sunk by a coal bin explosion, investigations after the war proved that such had indeed been the case. There had been no mine.
In 1928, in the USSR there was a man named Trofim Denisovich Lysenko, a favorite of Stalin, and ultimately, a con-artist. He was as popular then in the USSR as Al Gore is in the US today.

Lysenko's prize theory, which suited Stalin's political needs at the time, was that plants and animals could inherit traits acquired from the environment in a single generation. That is, if you used cooling to trick Winter wheat seeds to germinate and grow in the Spring ( a technique already used in the US at the time) the seeds from the chilled plants would go on germinating in the Spring in perpetuity.

There was very little science in Lysenko's science, but this "revolution" suited Stalin's desire to outdo the accomplishments in genetics which had occurred under Lenin. Honor upon honor was heaped on Lysenko (just as is done with Al Gore today) and real scientists who questioned his theories were shunned, vilified, and removed from their positions (not unlike the experiences of those modern "heretics" who question the basic beliefs of the global warming cult). The state media of the USSR proclaimed the virtues of the Lysenko method beyond all doubt and question, just as the state media of the USA proclaims the "Science is settled" regarding AGW. But Lysenko had no more real science training than Al Gore, and his theory that the environment could permanently alter the genetic structure of crops in a single generation was completely wrong.

However, for political reasons, the USSR mandated that all farmers had to use the Lysenko method (just as the present government intends to force us all to use the "Al Gore Cap and Credit" method) and the result was widespread famine when, during the following spring, the second generation wheat refused to germinate.

This illustrates the problems which can result when the government thinks it understands science, or that science can be subordinated to political agenda.

Hitler used this principle of lying to his own people to initiate an invasion. He told the people of Germany that Poland had attacked first and staged fake attacks against German targets. The Germans, convinced they were being threatened, followed Hitler into Poland and into World War 2.
FDR claimed Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack. It wasn't. The United States saw war with Japan as the means to get into war with Germany, which Americans opposed. So Roosevelt needed Japan to appear to strike first. Following an 8-step plan devised by the Office of Naval Intelligence, Roosevelt intentionally provoked Japan into the attack. Contrary to the official story, the Japanese fleet did not maintain radio silence, but sent messages intercepted and decoded by US intercept stations. Tricked by the lie of a surprise attack, Americans marched off to war.
President Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin to send Americans off to fight in Vietnam.
There were no torpedoes in the water in the Gulf. LBJ took advantage of an inexperienced sonar man's erroneous report of an attack to goad Congress into escalating the Vietnam War.

Then there were the lies used to trick the US into war with Iraq.

First off was Tony Blair's "Dodgy Dossier", a document released by the Prime Minister that made many of the claims used to support the push for war. The dossier soon collapsed when it was revealed that much of it had been plagiarized from a student thesis paper that was 12 years old!

The contents of the dossier, however much they seemed to create a good case for invasion, were obsolete and outdated.

Then there was the claim about the "Mobile biological weapons laboratories". Proffered in the absence of any real laboratories in the wake of the invasion, photos of these trailers were shown on all the US Mainstream Media, with the claim they while seeming to lack anything suggesting biological processing, these were part of a much larger assembly of multiple trailers that churned out biological weapons of mass destruction.
The chief proponent of this hoax was Colin Powell, who presented illustrations such as this one to the United Nations on February 5th, 2003.
This claim fell apart when it was revealed that these trailers were nothing more than hydrogen gas generators used to inflate weather balloons. This fact was already known to both the US and UK, as a British company manufactured the units and sold them to Iraq.

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Colin Powell's speech to the UN was itself one misstatement after another. Powell claimed that Iraq had purchased special aluminum tubes whose only possible use was in uranium enrichment centrifuges. Both CIA and Powell's own State Department confirmed that the tubes were parts for missiles Saddam was legally allowed to have. Following the invasion, no centrifuges, aluminum or otherwise were found.

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Powell also claimed to the United Nations that the photo on the left showed "Decontamination Vehicles". But when United Nations inspectors visited the site after the invasion, they located the vehicles and discovered they were just firefighting equipment.
Powell claimed the Iraqis had illegal rockets and launchers hidden in the palm trees of Western Iraq. None were ever found.

Powell claimed that the Iraqis had 8,500 liters (2245 gallons) of Anthrax. None was ever found.

Powell claimed that Iraq had four tons of VX nerve gas. The UN had already confirmed that it was destroyed. The only VX ever found were samples the US had left as "standards" for testing. When the UN suspected that the US samples had been used to contaminate Iraqi warheads, the US moved quickly to destroy the samples before comparison tests could be carried out.
Powell claimed that Iraq was building long-range remote drones specifically designed to carry biological weapons. The only drones found were short-range reconnaissance drones.

Powell claimed that Iraq had an aggregate of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical and biological warfare agents. Powell gave no basis for that claim at all, and a DIA report issued the same time directly contradicted the claim. No biological or chemical weapons were found in Iraq following the invasion.

Powell claimed that "unnamed sources" confirmed that Saddam had authorized his field commanders to use biological weapons. No such weapons were ever used by the Iraqis to defend against the invasion and, of course, none were ever found in Iraq.

Powell claimed that 122mm warheads found by the UN inspectors were chemical weapons. The warheads were empty, and showed no signs of ever having contained chemical weapons.

Powell claimed that Iraq had a secret force of illegal long-range Scud missiles. None were ever found.

Powell claimed to have an audio tape proving that Saddam was supporting Osama Bin Laden. But independent translation of the tape revealed Osama's wish for Saddam's death.

Colin Powell's UN debacle also included spy photos taken from high flying aircraft and spacecraft. On the photos were circles and arrows and labels pointing to various fuzzy white blobs and identifying them as laboratories and storage areas for Saddam's massive weapons of mass destruction program. Nothing in the photos actually suggested what the blobby shapes were and during inspections which followed the invasion, all of them turned out to be rather benign.
In at least one case, the satellite Powell claimed had taken one of the pictures had actually been out of operation at the time. And many questioned why Powell was showing black and white photos when the satellites in use at the time over Iraq took color images.

Another piece of evidence consists of documents which President Bush referenced as in his 2003 State of the Union Speech. According to Bush, these documents proved that Iraq was buying tons of uranium oxide, called "Yellow Cake" from Niger.
Since Israel had bombed Iraq's nuclear power plant years before, it was claimed that the only reason Saddam would have for buying uranium oxide was to build bombs.

This hoax fell apart fast when it was pointed out that Iraq has a great deal of uranium ore inside their own borders and no need to import any from Niger or anywhere else. The I.A.E.A. then blew the cover off the fraud by announcing that the documents Bush had used were not only forgeries, but too obvious to believe that anyone in the Bush administration did not know they were forgeries! The forged documents were reported as being "discovered" in Italy by SISMI, the Italian Security Service. Shortly before the "discovery" the head of SISMI had been paid a visit by Michael Ledeen, Manucher Ghorbanifar, and two officials from OSP, one of whom was Larry Franklin, the Israeli spy operating inside the OSP.
In July, 2005, the Italian Parliament concluded their own investigation and named four men as suspects in the creation of the forged documents. Michael Ledeen, Dewey Clarridge, Ahmed Chalabi and Francis Brookes. This report has been included in Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation into the outing of Valerie Plame, and Paul McNulty, the prosecutor of the AIPAC spy case.

A recently declassified memo proves that the State Department reported the fact that the Niger documents were forgeries to the CIA 11 days before President Bush made the claim about the Niger uranium based on those documents.

In the end, the real proof that we were lied to about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction is that no weapons of mass destruction were ever found. That means that every single piece of paper that purported to prove that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was by default a fraud, a hoax, and a lie. There could be no evidence that supported the claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction because Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. In a way, the existence of any faked documents about Iraq's WMDs is actually an admission of guilt. If one is taking the time to create fake documents, the implication is that the faker is already aware that there are no genuine documents.

What the US Government had, ALL that they had, were copied student papers, forged "Yellow Cake" documents, balloon inflators posing as bioweapons labs, and photos with misleading labels on them. And somewhere along the line, someone decided to put those misleading labels on those photos, to pretend that balloon inflators are portable bioweapons labs, and to pass off stolen student papers as contemporary analysis.

The President of the United States and his Neocon associates lied to the people of the United States to send them off on a war of conquest.


3: Scaring The Public For Fun And Profit

"News is what someone wants to suppress. Everything else is advertising".
former NBC news President Rubin Frank

Manufactured rumors of imminent doom have been around as long as religion itself. Predictions that the world is about to come to an end appear at regular intervals throughout the history of humankind, usually followed by demands of money and obedience to avert disaster, or guarantee salvation.

But in the modern age, where fewer and fewer people are blindly religious, doomsayers have had to eschew the trappings of the religious prophet and don the garb of the scientific prognosticator. However, their track record of success in predicting the end of the world had fared no better than that of their clerical brethren!

The Killer Bees

One of the fastest ways to get attention and funding is to announce the imminent doom of the world, then ask for money and/or obedience to study and perhaps "solve" the problem.

In the 1970s, alarmists warned that a deadly strain of African Killer Bees, accidentally released in Brazil in 1957, were slowly moving towards the United States. The media was filled with lurid stories of vengeance-minded bees slaughtering innocent humans. Movies and TV were filled with killer bee horror films (or comedic skits such as the Killer Bees on Saturday Night Live).

Starting in 2002, the Killer Bees did in fact arrive in the United States. And contrary to the warnings, they do not attack people at random. Like any other bee, they will act to defend their hives when attacked, but since most Americans are smart enough not to do that with ordinary bees, the prophecies of doom and death never materialized.

As a side note, Apiculturists already knew that the Killer Bee alarm was overblown. Worker bees, killer or otherwise, can only sting once, and usually die afterwards. Only the Queen Bees, which never leave the hive after their mating flight, are able to sting multiple times and survive. So bees, killer or otherwise, do not sting unless they are provoked to the point of a Kamikaze suicide attack on the enemy.

Y2K

As the 20th century wound down, concern was raised over the fact that most calendar functions inside computers were "hardwired" with the leading "19", and that as of midnight, December 31, 1999, computer date functions would leap backwards one hundred years to Jan 1, 1900.

The media was filled with dire forecasts of passenger jets falling out of the skies, banks unable to operate, a stock market crash, power grid collapse, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Now, while it was true that some dedicated clock and calendar chips did in fact have the hardwired "19" problem, the reality is that most calendar functions were already being handled totally in software and for those that were not, a changeover to software calendars able to deal with the year 2000 was a trivial exercise.

But so convincing were the scaremongers that the public started pulling their money out of banks in anticipation of a crash. As a result, corporations had to spend far more money on demonstrations to convince the public that Y2K was fixed than they spent fixing Y2K. In the end, Y2K turned into a 6 billion dollar enterprise that reaped huge profits for the scaremongerers-turned-software patch and "assurance testing" entrepreneurs.

Y2K came and went, and none of the doom-and-gloom prophecies came to pass.

Global Warming in 1817

"It will without doubt have come to your Lordship's knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated.

(This) affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations." President of the Royal Society, London, to the Admiralty, 20th November, 1817

Global Warming in 1922

"The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen , Norway . Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds." -- AP as published in the Washington Post, November 2, 1922


World about to end from Global Warming in 1923


And again in 1958, Global Warming was the fashion!


The Coming Ice Age (1975)

As strange as it may seem, back in the 1970s, NEWSWEEK reported that climatologists were warning that Earth was headed into a new Ice age.

That prophecy didn't work out either.

In 1977 TIME also reported that climatologists were warning that Earth was headed into a new Ice age.


If there is a lesson to be learned from all of the above, it is that governments, religious leaders, TV Networks; con men of all persuasions, are constantly warning you of something you really ought to be afraid of, or are possibly the cause of, and in any event are able to avoid/atone for with enough cold hard cash.

4: What is Global Warming?

Let's get something straight; the climate is supposed to change. In 4 1/2 billion years, there has never been a time when the Earth's climate remained exactly the same. Careful study of the geological and paleontological record shows that the climate is always changing; that the Earth is always getting warmer or colder in long hundred thousand year cycles.

At present the earth is far colder than the Cretaceous but far warmer than the ice ages. Given that the Earth has only recently come out of the Little Ice Age, it stands to reason we should be getting warmer. It is this idea that the Earth can or should be locked into a particular configuration that is artificial and unnatural. And who was to decide what the ideal temperature of earth should be? What is ideal for people living at the equator is hardly ideal for people living in the polar regions.

Global warming cultists like to talk about the balance of nature. This is a very romantic term, and sounds worthy of preservation. But there is no balance of nature. Nature is change. Nature is chaos. Nature is one life form going extinct while another evolves into being. Nature has never been in balance; it is in fact careening through time colliding with the landscape.

Is there really a crisis? Would it really be a bad thing if the Earth were getting warmer?

Warmer temperatures mean longer growing seasons. Longer growing seasons mean more food. And at a time when much of the world's population are going hungry, more food is a good thing.

Is carbon dioxide really such a bad thing? Carbon dioxide occurs naturally. The major sources are volcanoes and respiration from animal life on Earth. As carbon dioxide increases plant life which uses carbon dioxide for photosynthesis will grow more abundantly. Again, producing more food. There are even companies which will install carbon dioxide enhancement systems for commercial greenhouses because it has been proven that increased carbon dioxide stimulates plant growth and larger crops.

Is carbon dioxide a greenhouse gas? Yes, it is. But it is not the only one. Water vapor is by far the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Methane is also a greenhouse gas, more potent than carbon dioxide. But you cannot tax water vapor, and methane is produced by termites and deep-sea microbes, which are far too intelligent life forms to submit to carbon taxes, so the global warming cultists have settled on carbon dioxide as the villain because a portion of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere can be traced to human activity.

How much atmospheric carbon dioxide comes from human activity? Not including respiration, human contribution to atmospheric carbon dioxide is 0.28% of the total atmospheric carbon dioxide.


A closer look at the numbers

Now this may not seem like very much, and indeed it isn't. With volcanoes producing far more carbon dioxide than humans, one wonders what all the fuss is about regarding our cars and industry. But the global warming cult has a handy explanation. The global warming cult likes to claim that natural sources of carbon dioxide are already balanced out by natural sinks for carbon dioxide. Volcanoes are offset by trees. The carbon dioxide emitted by sea life is absorbed by seaweed. By claiming that there is no natural counterpart to human caused carbon dioxide the global warming cult tries to claim that 0.28% of atmospheric carbon dioxide contributed by human activity is upsetting the balance of nature. But as we pointed out before, there is no balance of nature. It is a romantic notion, but simply not reality. Experiments with enhanced CO2 in greenhouses confirms that as CO2 levels rise, plants will grow larger, absorb more CO2, driving levels back down again.

5: The Global Warming Fraud

So how do we know we are dealing with a fraud? As noted above, climate change is something that is supposed to happen. The world is always getting warmer or colder. The promotion of a change in the climate as a threat to humankind requiring the paying of taxes and submission to authority is a manufactured construct.

How do we know an agenda is involved? Simple. If the global warming alarmists were really only interested in the welfare of the Earth, one would expect them to be delirious with joy that the threat of anthropogenic global warming doesn't really exist after all. But quite to the contrary, those whose paychecks are dependent on the global warming industry are in a total panic to reassure us that, yes, there is a real danger, and it is all our fault!

Another reason we know Anthropocentric Global Warming is a hoax is that Scientific Method is supposed to allow for others to double-check the work leading to the theory. In other words, starting with the same data and applying the same methods, I should get the same results. But in the case of Anthropocentric Global Warming, this is impossible. The CRU, in response to Freedom of Information Requests for the raw data on which they based their dire predictions of doom, first stalled, then admitted they had destroyed the raw data! We mere mortals are expected to simply take their word their conclusions are accurate. I have to wonder with all the tens of millions of dollars in funding CRU enjoyed, why they could not purchase an extra hard drive to save that raw data!

In ancient times rulers ruled by what ever lie would convince the people that they needed to be ruled. One very common dodge was rule by divine right. I am your ruler because God said so. But as mankind has evolved and become more sophisticated, and understands that the idea of God is more a metaphor than reality, rulers intent on using deception to rule their people have had to come up with more convincing myths. Obey me and I will save you from the Communists. Obey me and I'll save you from the terrorists. Obey me and I will save you from global warming. And so forth...

So the push to sell global government on the basis of human caused global warming is just another variation on the theme of I am the ruler because the gods hath decreed it so.

Maybe it's time for humans to evolve past this latest deception.

As for the actual evidence calling into question the claims of human caused global warming, we can start with the very small percentage of atmospheric carbon dioxide actually created by human industry. The attempt by the global warming cult to claim that natural carbon dioxide is not a problem because nature balances it out, but human caused carbon dioxide is a threat, betrays the agenda of taking something that occurs naturally and focusing the blame for it onto humans in order to guilt them out of money and obedience.


Temperature monitor next to incinerator We have previously documented that temperature sensors used to generate the data that supports the claim of human caused global warming have been placed in the outflow of building air conditioners and in one notable instance right next to a trash incinerator. Clearly given that these are all sources of heat, the readings from these temperature sensors cannot be used to assume that we are measuring the temperature of anything other than air-conditioning outflow and the incineration of trash.

The foreign media has reported on NASA and NOAA exposed for intentional manipulation of temperature datam, including the removal of sensors from colder areas and the artificial inclusion and emphasis on warmer data often from wholly inappropriate remote regions.

It has been documented and ruled in a British court of law that Al Gore's film and inconvenient truth contained numerous factual errors. In one notable case, a film sequence showing the destruction of the polar caps, turned out to be a fake; a computer-generated sequence from the science-fiction movie the "Day after tomorrow".

Much of the sensationalist media coverage of the issue of human-caused global warming has been exposed as a fraud. A story which claimed Polar Bears were drowning because of global warming was exposed as a fraud in which pictures of summer melt were presented as mid-winter scenes, along with the ludicrous claim that polar bears could not swim to shore to save their own lives.

Then there was the recent video-taped admission by the head of Greenpeace that the claim that Greenland would lose its ice in 20 years was merely a propaganda hoax!

The actual ice core data from Greenland shows not only that the ice has survived much warmer periods without melting, but also that 9,099 out of the last 10,500 years were warmer than 2010! (see chart)



The list of problems supposedly caused by human-caused global warming, from Acne to Prostitution, is endless, with more nonsense being added every day!

The major problem that the global warming cultists have faced is that the Earth has actually been cooling for almost 12 years now. The global warming cultists attempted to re-brand by avoiding the term global warming and saying their agenda was to deal with climate change. Not just any climate change of course but sudden climate change, again the fault of humans, again requiring taxes and obedience to a global authority to solve. But re-branding as the climate change cult did not secure the fact that the predictions for a warming globe were simply not panning out. It was at this point that institutions dependent on funding to study human caused global warming began to adjust their data in order to, as CRU put it, "conceal the decline". Otherwise, trust in the climate scientist was going to be undermined by the fact that they had obviously totally blown which way the temperatures of earth were going, predicting that they were going up when in fact they were demonstrably in decline.


(see chart)
IPCC predictions in yellow/orange, real world in blue/green

Blue line is the raw data. The red line is the "value added" data the IPCC is using.


In one of the CRU emails leaked by a whistle blower, Dr. Phil Jones, head of the CRU (until forced to step down) openly admits the Earth is getting cooler!

"This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached article. What an idiot. The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data..."

Clearly from the above Dr. Phil Jones is well aware that the Earth has been cooling for 7 (now 12) years and is clearly biased against allowing that information to be made public. Ultimately, Phil Jones did admit on the record that there has been no warming since 1995.

In the end, the most obvious evidence that the global warming cultists got it wrong, is to look out your doors and windows this winter. Snow has come early to much of the Northern Hemisphere this winter. Ski resorts have opened early, and it looks to be a very hard winter. As of December 11th, 2009, 50% of the United States was under snow. On the same date last year, only 29% of the United States was under snow. The same global warming cultists who would point to temperature extremes 10 years ago as proof of their claims, now insist that early snows and frosts and ice should not be construed as evidence of global cooling. Clearly there is a bias at work here.


6: What is Really at Stake Here?

As I mentioned in the previous section, politicians seek to gain wealth and power and authority by taking something that occurs naturally, transforming it and promoting it as a crisis, and then selling the population a solution in exchange for higher taxes and increased authority over their lives.

Al Gore and his investors have created a crisis called human caused global warming. They have created a product, literally out of thin air, called the carbon credit. This is essentially a license to pollute. And as experience in Europe has already shown, polluters will simply buy the license, and pass the cost on to consumers. The pollution will continue, has continued; the only real change is that goods and services cost more than they did before.

These so-called carbon credits will be bought from those who have too many, and resold to those who need more. This will require a brokerage, of which the only one currently in existence is owned by Al Gore and his investors (which include executives of Goldman Sachs), who stand to make billions of dollars from the trading of carbon credits. This is not unlike the manner in which Enron made billions of dollars off of the people of California by trading imbalances in electricity. It is not a coincidence that Enron's Ken Lay assisted Al Gore in setting up the structure for the trading of carbon credits. Al Gore is doing with carbon dioxide to the world what Ken lay did to California with electricity.

There is a huge amount of money at stake on convincing the people of the world that the Earth is getting warmer, that it is all their fault, and atonement lies with submitting to new taxation.

Those people still supporting AGW (anthropogenic global warming) are dependent on funding to support their current positions. That funding is in turn dependent in the continuation of faith that AGW (anthropogenic global warming) is correct. After all, when Galileo proved that the Earth Orbited the Sun, funding for continued research into epicycles vanished abruptly, along with tenures and the value of every degree issued in the field of Epicycles.

The same applies here. With precious rare exception, every academic whose degree and funding is based on AGW is looking at a stark unemployment picture. In their minds, they are not fighting for scientific truth; they are fighting for their livelihood, and the proof is very simple. If their primary concern was really the long term welfare of planet Earth, one would think the Global Warming Cult would be delighted to find out there really is no danger after all. But, as is clearly evident, the goal is to support the orthodoxy even against the revelation that their core scientific foundation is based on a fraud.

Quite a few people, including President Obama, are financially invested in the Global Carbon Credit scheme, in which licenses are issued to pollute, with the surplus units bought and sold through brokerages. Al Gore and his fellow investors have already spent $150 million to "sell" anthropogenic global warming. They will not walk away from that investment easily.

Beyond the researchers whose degrees and funding are dependent on the continuation of a perceived public threat, the media outlets and government officials who signed onto this campaign are now realizing that they have wagered their entire credibility on AGW (anthropogenic global warming) at a time when their credibility was already strained from Saddam's "nookular" bombs, the economy, 9-11, etc. etc. etc. Climategate could well be the final nail in the coffin of the public's trust of corporate media and government.

Just one example, Paul Hudson, BBC weatherman who in October was sent Climategate emails has been gagged by the BBC.

Over and above the financial incentive, there is another agenda at work. There has been a push forward for the emergence of a global government for many years now. The plan to sell this new global oligarchy to the people the world rests on three pillars. The first pillar is human caused global warming, requiring submission to a global environmental authority. The second pillar was the global swine flu pandemic, requiring submission to a global health authority. The third pillar was the global financial crisis, requiring submission to a global banking authority. All three pillars are in serious trouble. If the pillar of human caused global warming collapses, no doubt it will pull the other two down with it.

Clearly there's a tremendous amount of political and financial power behind the selling of anthropogenic global warming to the people of the world. It is this political power which was able to provide Al Gore with an Academy award for his documentary film "An Inconvenient Truth" even though that film has already been exposed as containing multiple factual errors. It was this same political power which obtained for Al Gore a Nobel peace prize again for his documentary film and again awarded even though the deceptions had been exposed in a British court of law.

So much money and political power has been invested in the myth of human caused global warming that if human caused global warming becomes exposed to the general population as a lie and a hoax, many well-known institutions of government and media will likely collapse from the scandal. The establishment is literally fighting for its life. And we should expect them to take any and all desperation measures to prolong and preserve their power and prestige and privilege.

7: This is a Street Brawl for Truth and Freedom

It is clear that government, the media, corporatized science, have quite literally bet the farm on selling the illusion of human caused global warming as justification for global taxes and global government. In order to bring about global government simultaneous with creating the illusion of a need they have to destroy the credibility of the regional governments and we have seen a great deal of this lately. Now the oligarchs face an awkward choice. They have set the stage for a collapse of the national governments, but the global government they wish to install in its place may be collapsing right along with the myth of global warning.

Various governments and the media are so heavily invested in selling the illusion of human caused global warming, that if that hoax is exposed, if the public becomes aware of the monstrous fraud involved, those institutions of government and media could very well be destroyed and by their own hands.

Already we are seeing the organizers and perpetrators of this fraud trying to limit the damage from this exposure in several ways. The media is already hard at work attempting to dump the blame and scandal solely on the climate scientists, who after all were only doing what they were paid to do. This is not to say the scientists are not guilty. Quite the contrary, they deserve to be pilloried publicly and humiliated for their betrayal of the public trust. To say that their careers should be ended is an understatement. But in our haste to punish the scientists who assisted in the lies to the world, we must not forget that the scientists were working for somebody; for politicians such as Al Gore, for an agenda called global government, and for those who wanted to get rich by selling a fictitious product called carbon credit.

Yet another tactic being employed to limit the damage from climategate, is to insist that even though the scientist responsible for the climate warming data have been exposed as holsters that the validity of the data itself must remain above question above reproach. This of course is nonsense. If you hire a contractor to build a home, and discover afterwards that the contractor has a history of using substandard materials and sloppy workmanship, do you continue to believe the home he has built you is solid and durable and safe? Of course not. And yet the global warming cultists are demanding exactly this kind of naïveté from the public at large.

The latest spin is that if one questions the dogma of Anthropocentric Global Warming, then one must be in favor of destroying the Earth. There is no middle ground.

Another common propaganda tactic is to accuse those who question the veracity of the Global Warming Cultists is to accuse them of receiving paychecks from oil companies. When one points out that the proponents of Anthropocentric Global Warming are being paid for their work, one gets a "hurrumph" of indignation. It's apparently acceptable for their side of the argument to be well-funded, because in their eyes they are the "good guys."

Finally, there is the much-ballyhooed "Precautionary Principle" which states that one should never take any action that might cause harm even if that potential harm cannot be demonstrated or proven. In theory such a prohibition should extend to any actions undertaken in support of the Precautionary Principle itself, but such suggestions get the usual "Hurrumph" of indignation. The cultists are really good at that.

So is climategate a fraud? Is climategate a scientific scandal? No. climategate is first and foremost a political scandal. More than that it is a global political scandal that involves governments, media, institutionalize science, the banks, universities, indeed a vast cross-section of our ruling classes. It is more than a scandal; climategate is a crime against humanity. And this is not an exaggeration.

The goal of climategate was to extract money from every human being on planet Earth in exchange for a nonexistent salvation from a nonexistent threat. The goal of climategate was to trick every human being on planet Earth into accepting the yoke of a global oligarchy with no more legitimate claim to power than those who ruled by divine right.

We are at a watershed moment. We may well see a transition to a new and better political structure for the entire world. But it will not be the one that has been designed for us. If nothing else, the ability for government and media to lie to the population of the world on such a vast scale is forever destroyed. Climategate will relegate all of the official stories of the governments of the United States and Great Britain and indeed every government that took part in the human caused global warming hoax to the same level of credibility as Ramses carvings showing his victory over the Hittites. It will be seen as an historic joke by future generations.

But we are not there yet. The forces that have enslaved us with deception and fraud and hoax are desperate to hang onto their power and authority. They are busy coming up with new hoaxes and frauds to scare us back into obedience. And the media well aware that they cannot report on the lies of climategate without reporting their own complicity are working hand in glove with government to reassert their ability to control what you think and when you think it.

So, what we, the free people of planet Earth, need to do in the coming weeks is become the new mainstream media.

The TV networks and other corporate media have been handed their marching orders to resell the illusion of human caused climate change in any way shape or form that will convince you to accept new taxes and the loss of your freedoms. The only way the rest of the world is going to find out about climategate is if you tell them. Because the TV and news magazines won't. If it's mentioned at all, it will be to trivialize and dismiss it and assure the world it really doesn't matter. BBC is still reporting climategate as just another computer crime. This is like reporting Watergate as just another burglary!

We have collected together a vast body of evidence calling into question the legitimacy of the claims of human caused global warming. We have collected together a vast body of evidence proving fraud and deception on the part of the global warming cult.

Please forward this information to everybody you know. Time is of the essence. Barack Obama as already indicated that he will not be swayed by the exposure of the fraud in the CRU/NWIA data, and fully intends to go to Copenhagen to sign away our national sovereignty as "penance" for our contribution to global warming.

Other observers have commented that the moment president Obama signs that Copenhagen Treaty his credibility as president of the United States will be destroyed. For him to sign away sovereignty of our nation on the basis of a known lie should enrage all Americans and make it clear that the federal government is not working in the interests of the American people any more, but in service to this emerging globalist socialistic empire. Remember; global government is what Hitler wanted. Global Government is what Napoleon wanted. Global Government is what Alexander the Great wanted. Global Government is what the Roman Caesars wanted.

Climategate may well prove to be the final fight in the war between those who would rule us with lies and those who wish to live with truth. Climategate makes it clear that yes, there really are massive conspiracies between government and the media to mislead the general public. You cannot pretend they don't exist; one is right there before you staked out naked on the ground, exposed for all to marvel at! I leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide how many other such deceptions form what we think we know of the world and of history.

There are two paths into the future. Along one lies freedom and truth and prosperity for the people. Along the other lies a socialist dictatorship, born in deception, unable and unwilling to tolerate dissent, and dedicated to robbing the poor to give to the rich.

You need to decide which future you wish to live in.

And you need to decide what you will do about it.

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Many times, what the little people on the outside looking in rightfully call conspiracy, is simply what the super wealthy elite behind closed doors call "a concensus."

As always, follow the money and see who and what benefits and, most importantly, who pays.

Regards,
Paul

[Powerabout]

I'm stilll waiting for a group of Iraqi's to take Tony Blair (and his fake document that he and Bush used to invade Iraq), to court for war crimes.
I cant see how they could fail

One scientist/intelligence officer in the UK was so disgusted by what Blair and his ego army did, he committed suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kelly_%28weapons_expert%29

Blair was and is so dillusional he thought he could do what Margaret Thatcher ( previous PM) did and win a war as PM and become a hero.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War

Over on your side of the pond rumsfield used Dumbo to try and do the same.

PS Singaporeans are the greatest consumers of fuel on the planet by a factor of at least twice the next country due to everything being air conditioned!

[Ron Hill]

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Why is a questionable study from a controversial researcher overshadowing actual science?

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University of Alabama scientist Roy Spencer

July has been marked by an abundance of new evidence and arguments that point to the adverse effect of man-made climate change. But, surprisingly, it's been a controversial study from a controversial scientist that has generated the most buzz. Unsurprisingly, a slew of prominent right-leaning websites are pointing to it as proof that global warming is a hoax.
The report, by University of Alabama scientist Roy Spencer and published in the peer-reviewed journal Remote Sensing (http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/pdf), argues that heat is actually escaping from Earth much more quickly than current climate models predicted. This assessment, if accurate, could mean that the dramatically rising temperatures that scientists currently anticipate would not ultimately occur. The hypothesis hinges, as LiveScience (http://www.livescience.com/15293-climate-change-cloud-cover.html) points out, on the idea that clouds trap heat in our atmosphere, not carbon dioxide, and there's nothing we could, or should, do to affect that.
Of course, in the highly charged arena of global-warming politics, a study like this is catnip for climate-change deniers. Forbes columnist James Taylor (http://blogs.forbes.com/jamestaylor/2011/07/27/new-nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-in-global-warming-alarmism/) sparked a furor on Wednesday when he published a piece that claimed: "New NASA data blow gaping hole in global-warming alarmism." From there, the usual suspects (e.g., Fox News, the Daily Caller, NewsMax) piled on, along with the International Business Times, the Newark Star-Ledger, the Kansas City Star and other outlets.
But what exactly does the science say?

[zul8tr]

And the debate continues. Can changes in Earth's orbit effect global climate? Can man practically effect a change in the orbit to deal with the possibility? :rolleyes: At what cost? Perhaps with a tax on the millionaires and billionaires! ::rolleyes: I know, an import tariff on Chinese goods. :eek:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100205091825.htm.

[Skoontz]

The way I figure it is the global warming issue ios caused by a man made off balance of the earth about 90 years ago when the progressive movement began witth Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson. The fix is easy. Get all the people who believe in the non sense into a space capsule and fire them up to Mars. The counter weights on the earth will at that time have been removed, and the orbit will shift back into place. The issue will then go away.....Simple fix!
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[smittythewelder]

The piece says your scientist is University of Alabama. Does that make him one of the scientists who are too "lazy, incompetant, etc." to get a job in the private sector?

Also, I see that I'm not the only "verbose" contributor here . . . but that there is only an objection if one is verbose in questioning the preponderance of settled opinion here. Interesting.

[Skoontz]

Smitty you bring up an excellent poiunt....The Havrad Law professor we have annointed as commander and chief is a great example of how institutes of higher learning have failed miserably. They teach as long as you can pass a witrten hypothetical test and score well, you will go far in life....Since this genius has done nothing more than work the publci secotr, all you need to do is see how he governs to see what a load Harvard Law School is....

[smittythewelder]

What's a "hypothetical test"?

Never heard of that one. I assumed he had to pass actual tests. But you're right, passing university exams is not a guarantee that someone will be do what you want him to do as president. Reagan got a degree in Economics from somewhere in the Midwest, yet presided over a tripling of the national debt. Cheney later said, "Reagan proved that the debt and deficits don't matter," and evidently all the degreed Republicans in and around the Bush, Jr. administration believed this self-serving bilge and ginned-up two absurd wars to bring democracy to the towel-heads, based on faith-based economics (faith in the Communist Chinese government!!). As David Stockman, the savviest man in the (early) Reagan administration is explaining now, Cheney and his team were proved disasterously wrong.

So, yes, degrees aren't a guarantee. Maybe there are no guarantees. So I suppose that means I should be all right voting for Sarah Palin or Paris Hilton or whatever comical candidate the GOP puts up next. But still, having voted for an entirely different class of Republican candidates many decades ago, pulling a lever for any of the current clods tends to stick in my craw.

[Original Looper 1]

My hat's off to you Smitty and a big AMEN to you, brother. If you really want to get your blood boiling, listen to all of these Neocon clods blither on and on about Liberal democrats and democratic "socialist" programs that they themselves (the Neocons) participate in and/or take advantage of while they blither on against them.

Washington is a huge theft ring run "of, by and for" the billionaires. Follow the money and leave the "theater" to Hollywood where it belongs. :cool:


Regards,
Paul

[Skoontz]

Lets not foget the words of Oback the Magnanimous....Hisd harsh critcism of Bushs wars...But, where did we enter about 90 days ago without the approval of congress that Bush got? It seems this purple lipsed asswipe gets a pass on every single thin g he ever should have been called on, from the birth certificate, to thinking we live in 57 states, to the use of a breathalizer to stop an asthma attack, to his absurd book, which is a must read if you need to find out who this man is....He was given such a pass, that our press corps ( the p is not pronounced in Corps) sent 100 people to investigate Sarah Palin, and to date \found nothing, and did not do a thing when Hildoe brought up the part about where Oback the Magnanimous was born.... Then lets add the part about evil corporations....Can I say, if you looked at the billions of dollars those evil corporations give to hospital wings, libraries, hell Joan Kroc (McDonalds and my past client) gave an olympic ice skating arena ot San Diego, if they did not get the tax dodges they get, we would not be enjoying the things they give. Secondly, thjey employ people...People who would not have jobs if those evil corporations were not allowed to expand and take full advantage of the Nazi *** system we seem to demean evey chance we get...Then there are the evil rich people....The evil rich people who buy the goods and services I sell...Who have stopped since this purp[le lipsed moron took the reins....Why? Because he has failed to pass one single policy defining where ANYONE or ANY corporation should place their money...So what happenes when this occurs? Those eveil corporations and people sit on their money, which could be placed to good use by buying things we all sell.

Add, a hypothetical test is a written set of challenges that would never in a million years be a real occurance. 80% of a persons grade is by how well they take written tests, yet 1% of how we gauge thier productivity is from how they write...Seems we are a little off course here no?

[Powerabout]

Washington is a huge theft ring run "of, by and for" the billionaires. Follow the money and leave the "theater" to Hollywood where it belongs. :cool:


Regards,
Paul

Washington..not even an apprentice to those wall street bankers that have stolen ALL your money.
The writings on the wall when your richest people are bankers and realitors as they have created almost nothing for the nation except debt.

EDIT> Forgot to mention lawyers

[racewright]

Most waters are owned by either the rich or the goverment--ya have to kiss there asses to use the waters.
I would rather kiss the rich guys *** than the goverments ***.

Of the two I believe the Goverment is the most evil--
We can argue this till the cows come home (and I don't have any cows) so pick a side.....

[racewright]

Most waters are owned by either the rich or the goverment--ya have to kiss there asses to use the waters.
I would rather kiss the rich guys *** than the goverments ***.

Of the two I believe the Goverment is the most evil--
We can argue this till the cows come home (and I don't have any cows) so pick a side.....

You mean typing *** is fo bidden we is in trouble

[stvracing]

The rich and the govt are one in the same. Every day that goes by theres going to be new beliefs by individuals based on this that and the other thing. The only thing I believe is that protected waters open waters and what have you theres going to be rediculous laws made up new ammendments to those in place because sociaty allows this to go on. Global warming being based on emissions of vehicles and aerosol, maybe its true but it looks to me that everyone who makes a stink is just looking to get their palm greased.

[Skoontz]

The difference between the rich and the government is obvious,.
The rich, create wealth, employ people, donate willingly to charitable causes. They find tax breaks to profit, after all, they are in business to make profit, otherwise why be in business?

The government never created a job in its existance that was not completely supported by the tax dollars of the rich. The government never gave anyone anything that they did not first take from someone else. When the government says "Tax Cuts" for the wealthy, thats a misnomer. Tax cuts simply means someone gives LESS of the money THEY earned. When the government creates soon to fail entitlement programs like education for illegal aliens kids, they stole the funding for that from those who work to create wealth.
50% of the people do not pay taxes, yet they enjoy all the candy coated unrealistic programs the government offers. Of those 50% who do not pay taxes, 48% have never created any jobs so other people can create their own wealth and EARN a living.The other 2% are the evil rich peole who some feel dont get taxed enough. They already pay 60% when you add federal, state and municipal taxes of what they earn, yet, 48% pay nothing...See whats out of balance here? No one owes you a damn thing you did not work for and earn. NO ONE....

[Moneypit]

The fact that the earth has temperature variations has been documented in so many ways it is impossible to keep up with them. Sure, the earth has warmed, the earth has cooled, the earth goes through cycles, usually associated with variations happening on the sun. Ocean currents warm, which causes variations in regional weather, just as when those same currents cool. Why those cycles are identified by some stupid Spanish names is beyond me. However, man's contribution to any global warming or cooling is so minimal it is almost impossible to measure. Al Gore has become rich beyond his wildest dreams by exploiting some sort of "doomsday" because of straight out lies. Lies the public has accepted as truth. Man's contribution to CO2 in the atmosphere is reported to be less than 1/4 of one percent. How grandiose of mankind to believe he has any control over temperature cycles that have been happening, with a certain amount of repetition, for eons. "Man Made Global Warming" (MMGW) is a total farce with ZERO scientific evidence. All of our lives, and the lives of our children's children will be affected by the bullfeathers laws the US is trying to push down our throats. Those that propagate Al Gore's lies should be held accountable for the destruction of the industrial base of America. Countries around the world are profiting by the demise of industrial opportunities here. People like George Soros are counting their money made by the industrial explosion in countries that are immune to any EPA regulations. Is this MMGW junk science just another spoke in the wheel of a "One World Order" that must bring America to it's knees in order to succeed?..... MMGW IS TOTAL BULLFEATHERS, anyone that believes in it really shouldn't attempt to chew gum and walk at the same time....
Ray

[Ron Hill]

1. Al Gore Goes Nuts in Aspen Speech
Global warming crusader Al Gore lost his cool and dropped several s-bombs in a recent speech accusing climate change skeptics of manipulating the media.
Addressing the Aspen Institute in Colorado on Aug. 4, the former vice president declared that skeptics “pay pseudo-scientists to pretend to be scientists to put out the message: ‘This climate thing, it’s nonsense. Manmade CO2 doesn’t trap heat. It may be volcanoes.’ Bulls***! ‘It may be sunspots.’ Bulls***! ‘It’s not getting warmer.’ Bulls***!”
The Hot Air Network’s Green Room website, which reported the outburst, observed: “It would almost be fascinating to listen to Gore lash out at those who harbor an opposing view if it weren’t so pathetic.”
New York Post columnist Andrea Peyser was even harder on Gore: “Has the guru of global warming, the Bozo of ozone and pooh-bah of the probably-not-so-endangered polar bear, gone completely off his bleeping rocker?
“I’m talking about Al Gore, the former vice president who, after losing the White House, reinvented himself as a minor deity — a Gulfstream-riding, energy-slurping champion of Planet Earth.”
Peyser noted that Gore continued his “potty-mouthed tirade” with this comment: “It’s no longer acceptable in mixed company, meaning bipartisan company, to use the god**** word ‘climate.’”
Marc Morano, a skeptic of manmade global warming, refuted Gore’s allegations on his Climate Depot website.
One study he cited noted that a lack of volcanic dust in the atmosphere could be responsible for a rise in average global temperatures since the 1960s.
Several other studies linked solar activity and the sunspot cycle with the earth’s temperatures.
And Morano referred to a “peer-reviewed admission that ‘global surface temperatures did not rise between 1998 and 2008.’”
Gore and other global warming crusaders assert that an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere due to a rise in emissions is responsible for a continuing rise in global temperatures.
But Climate Depot maintains: “It is not simply the sun or CO2 when looking at global temperatures, it is the sun, volcanoes, tilt of the earth’s axis, water vapor, methane, clouds, ocean cycles, land use, etc. Climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables, not just CO2.”
Peyser pointed out that scientist Charles Monnett, who had claimed that melting polar ice caps had led to the death of polar bears, was being investigated for possible scientific misconduct by the federal agency that employs him.
“The population of fuzzy friends has actually quintupled since 1950,” Peyser writes.
“Couple that with NASA’s revelation that the earth is letting more heat escape the planet than alarmists previously thought, blowing a hole in warming hysteria. Toss it all together, and you’ve got one nutty Gore.”

[Ron Hill]

I read this in the newspaper:

"Research found that the farther north the species live, the faster they move
their home base.

That makes sense becasue in general northern regions are warming more than those
closer the equator, scientist say."

So, global warming is happening in the north faster than at the equator???

ADD:


Global warming happens in Needles every summer!

[Jeff Akers]

What we are seeing is anti-science. We are experiencing pseudo science that aims not to question or challenge, but to reinforce the validity of a body of opinion that is yet to make the jump from theory to fact. It is being done to fit a political agenda. It is a corruption of science and the latest example of why people should be sceptical of the claims made about climate change and its causes and effects.

[Master Oil Racing Team]

The polyscientists are idiots Ron. When you have to live in an igloo, it's too cold to piss outside, and after a few of sizable portions of caribou, the dump begins to smell, even if it's frozen. Time to move.

Down south you can go anywhere you want to. Just make sure there's not a rattler hiding behind the bush when you squat down.;):D

[Ron Hill]

1. Nobel Winner Quits U.S. Science Group Over Climate Stance
Nobel Prize-winning physicist and erstwhile Obama supporter Ivar Giaever has resigned as a Fellow from the prestigious American Physical Society to protest the organization’s promotion of manmade global warming fears.
Norwegian-born Dr. Giaever shared the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1973 for work at General Electric related to superconductors.
In an email to APS Executive Officer Kate Kirby on Sept. 13, which was obtained by the Climate Depot website, Giaever said:
“Thank you for your letter inquiring about my membership. I did not renew it because I cannot live with the [APS] statement below:
“‘Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate.
“‘The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.’”
Giaever goes on to say: "In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degrees Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this 'warming' period."
Giaever was one of Barack Obama's key scientific supporters and joined more than 70 Nobel Science laureates in endorsing him in an October 2008 open letter.
But in March 2009, Giaever was one of more than 100 co-signers of a letter to President Obama criticizing his stance on global warming. The letter stated in part: "We, the undersigned scientists, maintain that the case for alarm regarding climate change is grossly overstated."
Giaever, now a professor emeritus at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, is one of several prominent scientists to resign from the APS over its global warming position. Among them is physicist Hal Lewis, who wrote to the organization before his death this past May: "Global warming is the greatest and most successful pseudoscientific fraud I have seen in my long life."

[zul8tr]

As expected as time moves on more data comes in and reevauations of all the theories compared to facts are unavoidable. As a result common sence and facts prevail and realistic researchers change their opinion! The question still remains what portion of climate change (warmer or colder) is attributable to humans? This most likely will be resolved when cows fly.:) They still do not have a good way to model cloud cover which is a major contributer to global temperatures and that also will be resolved when the cows fly..

When Galileo stated the sun was the center of our universe and the earth revolved around it he was considered a heritic and put under church arrest because it was not the populist belief and the people in power did not want their power challanged. It took awhile but time passed more study and facts prevailed. The church finally removed charges on Galileo in the 20th century, lot a good it did him? I think the text books finally were changed but probably not at the Flat Earth Society:rolleyes:

[Skoontz]

I think one of the first budget cuts, and tax incentive removals should be for write offs that psuedo intellectual jack asses sporting PhD's secure to write studies often where the funding body of the study tells the person conducting the study the ideal result they wish to achieve,.....
Get rid of tax breaks for this type of funding, and watch science become real....

[smittythewelder]

One of your whacko liberal bureaucracies getting its funding cut is the US Coast Guard, which has been operating in the high Arctic since the 1880s. The USCG currently has ONE icebreaker, medium-duty, operating in the far north, and is begging Congress for enough money to rebuild one of their two old heavy icebreakers. The Russians have twenty five: six active heavies plus two mothballed heavies, fifteen others, and two leased from the Netherlands. The Russians expect that the next big military confrontation probably will be in the Arctic; a recent stunt was planting a Russian flag made of titanium on the seabed at the north pole. Other countries are nervously preparing: Finland and Sweden each have seven icebreakers, Canada has six and hopes to find funding for another six. Lisa Murkowski, Republican senator from Alaska has spoken out about Chinese marine activities in the Arctic, saying, "We don't think that they're just sightseeing". Evidently not; China is now building its first icebreaker.

None of this would be happening but for Arctic ice thinning dramatically in recent years, as the Coast Guard knows . . .knows better than all other parties offering commentary on the situation, having been operating in the region for some 130 years. NOBODY else (including, by its own admission, the US Navy, which is war-gaming Arctic scenarios and not telling us anything else about them) has anything like the credibility of the USCG and its scientists on this matter. The Coast Guard's one active icebreaker, the "Healy" (named for Michael Healy, captain of the "Bear" which was the first and longest-operating icebreaker) is a medium-duty vessel designed specifically for Arctic research. When the scientists of the "Healy" tell us global warming is a con-job, I'll believe it.

But of course the Coast Guard scientists are dupes or liars, in on the con so they can keep their cushy jobs and get us to buy them more boats. Right.:rolleyes:

[Powerabout]

when they can prove its not a natural cycle of the planet instead of caused by man even by CO then I might listen.

There is a glacier in the south island of New Zealand, never seems to get a mention re global warming. I guess it doesnt agree with Al Gore

from wikipedia
"This cyclic behaviour is well illustrated by a postage stamp issued in 1946, depicting the view from St James Anglican Church. The church was built in 1931, with a panoramic altar window to take advantage of its location. By 1954, the glacier had disappeared from view from the church, but it reappeared in 1997. This is due to the highly variable conditions on the snowfield, which take around 5-6 years before they result in changes in the terminus location."

[smittythewelder]

So, global warming is happening in the north faster than at the equator???



Yes. That's right, that's what's happening. That is what the Coast Guard, which has spent a century operating missions in both the Arctic and Antarctic as well as a great many other places, is seeing.

Contrary to Rush and Glenn and other radio talkshow entertainers who have learned how to line their own pockets by stirring up their audience with such hairbrained ideas as the one that says, "If global warming is real, why am I not seeing it here in Meadow Muffin, Iowa (or whereever)?" The great majority of atmospheric scientists, oceanographers, and yes, the Coast Guard and the naval commanders of the world, who believe in global warming, have NEVER said that its effects will be seen as a few degrees of warming uniformly felt world-wide, and have ALWAYS said that due to changes in oceanic and atmospheric heat flows from the increased heat/energy in the system, some places will actually get cooler as others get warmer. The northern rim of the Pacific, for example, has its climate modified by the Kuroshio, the Japan warm current, which even affects us here in the Northwest. If that current changes course, weakens, strengthens, our weather will change. Same thing is true of the north Atlantic with the Gulf Stream, which is more likely to change, and European futurists are in a cold sweat over what will happen to them.

And a majority of that majority believe that human activities are responsible for a warming trend that so far appears to be proceeding much faster that previous ones, by the evidence of tree rings, ice cores, geological deposits.

You can take almost any American's belief or disbelief in this matter, and from no more information about him than that you can make a bet on his political beliefs, and win often enough to line your own pockets. That is just weird; the national budget can be political, foreign policy, immigration, gay marriage, education reform, lots of things can get political, but how did one's opinion of matters of climatology become a litmus test for aspirants to Republican party nominations, national and local?:confused:

[Powerabout]

[QUOTE (a previous post)]

So, global warming is happening in the north faster than at the equator???



well no
the ice left the equator quite a while ago

[smittythewelder]

HAW, good catch, bud!!