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fowl
08-26-2018, 01:15 PM
Does anyone know much about a 3cyl 52ci Merc 40? i’ve got a 97 that i’m hoping there are some easy mods like changing out carbs to bump of the HP on.

from what I can tell it is a bit of an odd motor, looks like in 96 and the first part of 97 the 40hp was a 4 cylinder and then in 98 is when Mercury switched to the 3cyl 59ci 40,50, and 60. In 91-97 they had a 3cyl 50 and 60 that were both 52ci. Anyone have any clue what the difference is between my 97 40 and those?

Appreciate any advice!

hightide
08-27-2018, 03:26 PM
Put up some pics of it, I don't think the 52" was available as a 40 unless it was a jet, and if it was a jet motor it most likely has 60 carbs. Pics of carbs too, I should be able to tell what you have from the numbers on them.

25XS
08-28-2018, 05:18 AM
...and if it was a jet motor it most likely has 60 carbs.

AND, if it was a factory jet, it's got a 15" exhaust tower, too. That would be cool.

ferdthe4
08-29-2018, 12:52 PM
I had a 1993 or 1992 mariner same as merc 52ci 60hp tiller short short shaft for a while. I converted it to a jet making it a 60/40. like others have said I don't believe merc sold a 40hp 3cyl till they came out with the 59ci triples. I could be wrong maybe there were a few anomalies towards to the tail end of the 52ci triples. But far as I know the only factory 3cyl 52ci mercs sold as 40hp were usually sold from the factory with a jet which I believe those were marketed as 45hp jets. They had the same power head as 60hp props jets aren't as efficient as props and lose some power at the jet. So when sold as jet factory they were sold as 45hp maybe some labeled as 40hp which is a 60/40 jet. Pics of the motor and cowling would help, who knows maybe it was a 50 or 60 and someone just put different decals on hard to say. I ended up selling my 52ci merc 60hp with the jet on it and sold the short shaft lower unit seperately. I've always been more of an omc guy and now have an omc 56ci triple. The turn off on the merc for me was the blind bore no cylinder head to shave that makes bumping up compression expensive because you pretty well are limited to going to different pistons to bump up compression to go along with different porting for performance gains. If it is a 40hp and has smaller carbs you could go to 60hp carbs and better reeds that would be your easiest quick gain of some ponies.

fowl
09-11-2018, 09:32 AM
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Here is a picture of the serial numbers off of the carbs and of the plate on the motor. Sorry that took a bit the boats in my family’s barn and I’m off at school at the moment

hightide
09-11-2018, 12:56 PM
You sure it's a 52? But either way those aren't 60s. You would see some benefit going to a set of 60 carbs, preferably the 3301-824854c series ones. Put up a pic of the whole motor, might be a 59

hydrospeed77
09-11-2018, 05:46 PM
In regards to these carbs (all Merc carbs for 2stroke midrange engines), are there specs available for venturi size and jetting based on the casting numbers, or based on the the dot-peen'd "WME##-#" numbers?

hightide
09-11-2018, 07:35 PM
There are some early 52ci 60 carbs that don’t seem to perform as well think their number is 706826, they have a shorter emulsion tube and use a .070 jet stock. 824854c is the revised carb and takes a .062 jet for the 52”. 824854c1 is the 59” designation and uses a .060 main. Venturis are all the same. I’ve never been able to make much sense of the peened numbers, this is going by the castings

fowl
09-12-2018, 08:06 AM
Thanks for all the info, I really appreciate all the help. I’m pretty new to this but want to figure it out cause so far I have really enjoyed it. Do changing the the jets make much of a difference? I run the boat at pretty low elevation for Colorado (~4000ft) but that’s probably still considered pretty high for most of the country. I know with dirt bikes they won’t run right until you lean them out a bit, can you do that with an outboard?

Also I should be able to get some better pictures of the motor either tomorrow or Friday. What made me originally think it was a 52ci instead of a 59 was that the cowling is different. All of 59s I’ve seen have an oiler window, also mine has both pull and electric start which I haven’t ever seen on a 59.

hightide
09-12-2018, 08:58 AM
There were quite a few 59" 40s made with pull start, I've got 2 of em. A pull start 52" is actually really rare, especially in america. Get a set of 824854c1 carbs and a set of .058 jets, they're safe to run at sea level but a step down from stock. You'll want to get a set of 50/60 reed retainers to get rid of the 40 stops.

fowl
12-10-2018, 05:40 PM
Hi I know this is kinda an old thread, sorry I haven't been able to get any other pictures of the motor but I really appreciate the help. I'm heading home this Friday for Christmas break and will be able to get what ever you guys need to figure it out. How do you tell the difference between the 52ci and the 59ci? I had always thought I had a 52 because mine was a 97 and people usually talk about the 59's starting in 98. However I when I was looking for a repair manual I stumbled on this https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1198862/Mercury-40.html#manual which if you go based on the serial number range would make mine a 59?

hightide
12-10-2018, 07:15 PM
If the coil wires go to a box on the side it’s a 52” if it has 3 individual coil packs (cdms) right next to the plugs it’s a 59”

fowl
12-11-2018, 06:36 AM
Awesome, Thank you!

fowl
12-18-2018, 03:32 PM
Thank you for all the help this far I attached some pictures of the motor but it looks like the coils all have their own box which would make it a 59ci? 69339

fowl
12-18-2018, 03:34 PM
Here’s the other couple pictures, I was having trouble uploading them. Let me know if there is anything else I can look at to verify it’s a 59”

hightide
12-18-2018, 03:36 PM
That is without a doubt a 59"

fowl
12-18-2018, 03:40 PM
Last one of the coils

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fowl
12-18-2018, 03:47 PM
Wonderful, thank you for all the help! Are 60hp carbs, new reeds, reed stop and reed plate the place to start for the most gain on it?

hightide
12-18-2018, 04:25 PM
No need for the whole reed plate, just carbs and 50/60 reed retainers. From there you can have the flywheel lightened, a tuner made, intake/reed plate modified and port work.

ferdthe4
12-19-2018, 06:12 AM
Thats the wrong tiller handle for it, looks like a tiller off a smaller engine like 25-30hp.

hightide
12-19-2018, 02:43 PM
No, that's the correct tiller. Comes up above the top of the motor when folded up