BWRC '300' Enduro 2007 Q & A

[rossdbos]

This thread should be for Q & A for the rules and interpretation of the rules. Also, questions that are not in the rules but should be answered. No bashing or instigations will be tolerated, just Questions and Answers.

Here is a sample of what a perspective racer posted that I answered on another website/messageboard and I think has merit being posted over here.


Questions 1 - 9:
1. What class would my 21 Blown v-drive with interior, or without most of it run ?
Answer: We will know better after the December 3rd rules meeting, which you are welcome to attend. Things will not change drastically, just more "fine tuning" for parity!

2. What safety items do we need, Helmet, engine kill cord, safety -race -jacket, to what spec?
Answer: Snell Approved Helmet, Kill Switch, Return spring for Throttle, lifejacket (which along with the Helmet can be rented from Lifeline either on-site or pre-reserve it and pick it up during check in on Friday-Cost is around $100, I believe but check with Bill at Lifeline.) All this is in the rules posted at www.boatracingfacts.com under the forums section in BWRC '300' Enduro thread entitled official rules. Please visit as 95% of the rules, like this will not change.

3. Fire extinguisher?
Answer: Yes, you should have one on board, along with a paddle and tow rope, in case you break down and need to be towed in, it helps speed things along.
Also, you will need one for your pits for fueling.

4. Tow rope, attached or detached?
Answer: Attached at the Bow Eye and taped back along the deck (to keep from flapping and beating up the deck while racing.)

5. Fuel stops, how many?
Answer: 2 Fuel stops are madatory (10 minutes madatory each time) plus anytime you hit the trailer, ie: even if you have done your two pit stops and you misjudged on gas or have a problem with your motor/propeller, etc. as soon as you put it on the trailer (for the 3rd time or more) it is a 10 minute minimum stoppage each time you hit the trailer but for sure 2 mandatory fuel pit stops.

6. Drivers required ?
Just one, if you want to "iron man it" go for it, conversely, you can have as many co-drivers as you want. All driver's and co-drivers must be signed up at registration or before the start of the event.

7. I see APBA mentioned, do you have to be a member? cost for just this race?
Answer: Yes, a "single event" membership for APBA is $40. This is in addition to your "Entry fee" of $300 (provided you pre-register before the deadline).

8. I am very familiar with participating in racing events, I competed 22 years of motocross and 4 1/2 years of road racing, both at amateur and pro levels, so i'm not a stranger to rules, just want to know the correct ones for this event.
Answer: They will be posted by January leaving 10 months to absorb each and every rule or get all questions answered!

9.Question: Okay, so bottom line is go until you see the checkered flag !!!
Answer: You are absolutely correct. This is true for ALL RACING!!!!!

Please let me know if there are any questions I can answer.
Sincerely,
Ross Wallach, RPM RACING ENT.

[capnzee]

The rules for the Parker 300, 2007 have now been posted and your Blown V-drive 21 foot boat fits nicely in Division IV. All of the rest of the questions you asked were answered by Ross, however, they are also covered in the "body" of the 2007 rules which have been posted. I would like to clarify one of Ross' answers regarding "go until you see the checkered flag". As in all racing there are other flags that control the race. An example would be the red flag or the black flag. You as a driver are responsible for knowing exactly what to do when you see one of these flags while racing the Enduro. Please make a copy of these rules for future use and get your registration in. :) Rod Z.

[BADBLOWN572]

Gentlemen, I am going to need some interpretation on the rules to figure out what class one of the boats we plan on running will be entering. There is a good possibility that Short Bus/Shocker Racing will be entering a couple of boats in this years 300. I know that one boat is going to have to run in Div VI, but not sure of the other. Here are the specifications on the other boat.

21'6" Production IO V bottom cruiser. 509cid engine with Bravo 1 outdrive. Non blown, single carb. Pump gas (approx. 500h.p.) It does have a Bravo 1 with STOCK 1" shorty lower unit directly from Mercury, with nose cone & low water pickup). This boat is our standard production boat that we build for customers.

The only class that I am reading is that it will fit in Div VI. Is that correct? Div III calls for IO's to have small block power only. Div IV Calls for outboard power only. Div V is outboard mod VP, Div VI is unlimited.

I believe that if we run in Div VI we will have no chance of being competitive. We would be running against boats with over 2x our horse power and have 40-50mph top end advantage. I would like to put on a good show with our stock production boat.

Can I please get a ruling on where this boat would fit in the divisions.

[capnzee]

Badblown, I can see your problem and I agree with you! Our program is to seek PARITY among boats, yet leave no boat behind! We are having a short meeting to "tweak" some of the rules so that no one falls between the cracks. Call me as soon as you get this message and we can discuss in further detail. I think something can be worked out that will be favorable to everyone. (310) 488-3563 :) Rod Zapf ------- MINUTES LATER: Thats the way to do it Danny! Danny has just called me and I am going to go to work for him! Let no boat be left behind and seek PARITY for all! Guys, I am here to help. We want you in this race and wish everyone could win, but most of all, we want everyone to have a chance of winning!

[BADBLOWN572]

Thanks Rod. :)

[El Hombre]

Not knowing what exact boat this is but a 22ft stoker with that setup runs 100mph and that would be a very tough boat in Div VI. To me it sounds like it fits right in with out any rule changes.

[capnzee]

Good morning ladies and gents. This is an alert only. Stand-by for a "tweak" of the rules. If you are building a "175" for Division I, I would advize you to put it on "hold"for the moment. Minor additions to Div IV to allow more than just the outboard ski boats. Div VI boat start time has been adjusted to give them a better look at the finish line. Ross will have the official version of the rules modification #1 in print ASAP. :) Rod

[capnzee]

Ross has posted the update to the "tweaked" Parker Enduro rules. I caution everyone to read more than just the Division rules and the start times. In particular, I recommend you read the rules and definitions that follow the official start times. You may want to read the definition of a "FIELD" of boats and of what it consists. We believe that we need to up the entries to a minimum of 40 boats this year to continue this race. We have been gradually upping the number from the last enduro run in the late 80's. That "field" consisted of about 25 boats starting and less than 12 finishing if my memory serves me right. They could not sustain the race with their numbers and we need to continue "building" our numbers if we are to continue this race. The Bluewater Resort will be remodeling and they will not be able to "save" as many rooms for us as in the past so I recommend that you get your entries in and your room reservations made early. Now is not too early.
Another minor change this year is the MINIMUM QUALIFYING SPEED OF 55 MPH. :) Rod

[El Hombre]

So are these the final rules or will they get changed again?

[rossdbos]

These are the rules. There were a few loopholes and some disparities that raised concerns about parity between divisions so the rules were looked at and changed. I don't forsee any changes but if there are some loopholes or disparities that we have somehow overlooked it will go under review. I would ask your understanding as we are dealing with 6 divisions and wide variations in speeds and boats and we all are striving for parity. We want to give the entire field a fair chance at the checkered flag, which I'm sure you and the rest can appreciate.
Thank you,
Ross Wallach, RPM RACING ENT.

[capnzee]

The Bluewater 300 race committee would like to put out a poster like the one we did last year. If you recall, every one seemed to want a peice of "history" and a souvenir. We would like to start a new poster for 2007 but we need some money to get started. We want to give last years winners first shot at the poster. We need a good shot of your boat and 150 bucks for a "front page shot"! Help support the race by calling me now and reserving a spot on the poster. These posters will be placed all over the western U.S. Donors will receive "extras" for their family and friends. Your kids can take one to school for "show and tell" Make your daddy proud. give your kids something to talk about! :) Rod Zapf (310) 488-3563

[El Hombre]

I find "pump gas" being broad? I can go to the pump and pump 110,105,101 and 91.So what are you considering pump gas?

[capnzee]

That is a great question for any one who plans on running Division I! We are considering pump gas to be 92 octane or less, the typical gas that you would expect to pump from your local gas station, not the kind that you find in hot rod alley, or from the fuel truck that pumps racing fuels, nor the airport for that matter, nor even the gas you may "pump" yourself to somehow get around the spirit of the rule.The rules state that Division I outboards must run pump gas. I suppose we should have been more specific. I hope this helps explain your question. Please try to remember, we are trying to run this race in a manner that is based on honesty and sportsmanship with as few rules that require tear down etc. When the checker'd flag drops, we would like to know we have a winner without having delays due to protests, tear downs etc. Ross says that fuel checks are simple and will be done as will the weighing of boats that have a minimum weight. Are you planning on running Division I outboard? :) Rod ****Still looking for folks to help us out with the poster!!*****

[rilo22]

Rod, you can count on me again this year. let me know where to send it. Bill Reiter sr.

[capnzee]

Bill, I can always count on you! Please send me a check and a 8 X 10 picture of your boat. Rod Zapf 1015-2nd st. Manhattan Beach, Ca. 90266 (make check out to me--I'm mak'n money now!) Bill, how many entries can we count on you this year? Just kidding- we hope to see at least one & thanks as always for your support! :) Rod PS glad to see you're following the posts.

[rilo22]

Rod, no current picture of an enduro boat. hopefully, Shocker Racing will have 2 boats good to go.We will have a sst. 45 ready for parker in april. checks in the mail! REALLY! Bill sr.

[capnzee]

Bill, I always appreciate your help. Thank you so much! Look around, see if you can find a picture, we have a few weeks before I have to go to "bed" with the poster. Thanks again--:) Rod P.S. Have you seen the article in Hot Boat? I haven't seen it but I understand it has a great article on the 2006 Parker Enduro. I have heard that Jim Wilkes may help out with a Division I, Cucci hull, powered by a 4 cyl. OMC. Great starter boat. Got any starters in your stable? I can get a boat for them!:eek:

[capnzee]

El Hombre had an excellent question concerning carburetor size on the Division I outboards. There is a carburetor size limitation on the Division I outboards. 1 5/16 of an inch measured at the venturi. No other classes (inboards or outboards) have a carburetor restriction, including numbers of carburetors. Blowers are not restricted in any way nor are turbo-chargers. I will ask Ross to add this 1 5/16" restriction to the Division I rules. :) Rod
P.S. I have not heard from most of last year's division winners as to whether they wanted to be on the poster. Exception to this is Ron Hill, last years winner and the Division III winner. I am awaiting both a check and a picture at this time. I have decided to open the poster to all.

[ePerformanceMarine]

Not a question but a Thanks, I am very pleased with the way the rules have been written and would like to thank all involved. The Div I Jets should be able to get 3 or 4 laps in before the Div II boats start. Not a great headstart but a headstart ! The last two races have not been kind to us but we feel that this year we have a very good package and should at least be there in the end. I hope that more jets come out than in years past. Too feel that we should see a great race this year.

Rod I would like to submit my pic for the poster after the April race would that be cool ?

[capnzee]

Jim, please send me a SUPER 8 x 10 of your boat and a check for 100 dollars. We will give you a great spot on the 2007 Parker 300 Enduro Poster. It will be similar to last years! I have saved the posters from the Enduro over years past and wall papered my garage with them. To me, each one brings back a special memory as well as being a collectors item. Sorry I have to charge for these things, maybe in years to come this race will turn a profit, but for now we are hard pressed to make expenses. We need 40 boats out this year Jim and we thank you and all of the "jet-set" for their support. Thank you for your support of the rules and the committee that worked on them! Seeking parity is not always easy. I certainly hope to see a jet boat on the podium this year. Any body who says jets can't run in rough water has not seen the video of the jets running the rapids a few posts down. :) Rod Zapf, 1015-2nd st. Manhattan Beach, Ca. 90266 (310) 488-3563 P.S. Right after the April race will have to be the dead line for getting the pictures in. Any body else that wants to get on this wagon, send me a post, We will feature 10 boats on the poster. At this point I have 5 promises, but no pic/money.

[MAXIMUS]

Rod can i email you a picture or does it need to be sent in the mail??? John the division 3 second place boat from last year would like his boat on the poster... let me know!:)

[capnzee]

Hi Ben, with my computer skills I would prefer an 8 X 10 mailed to me along with a check for 100 dollars. I will plan on 10 pictures at 100 bucks and the total cost should be 1000 bucks. If it is more, I will take up the slack. :) Rod

[MAXIMUS]

Ok then I will get the picture & check sent to you! :)

[capnzee]

So far I have pictures for the poster from HILL RACING, JIM BEST and BILL REITER (who simply sent money to support the poster, Bill, if I can cover the costs of the poster with out using your money, I will return it to you and we'll have a beer together)--Other folks who have "pledged" are Maximus, Kolby, Buchanan--that leaves about 4 spots on the poster left but I am playing a first come, first served type of operation.:)
On another note, several of GN-24's pit crew called for rooms at the Blue Water Casino. The registrar said she never heard of the Blue Water Enduro on the 20th of October. She gave them a rate of around 85 dollars and a confirmation number. If you call for reservations, take names and get numbers! If you recall, we had problems with reservations last year and the year before. With rennovations going on and only half of the resorts rooms being available, it could get messy again this year! Recommend you call during business hours when you can talk to a "heavy hitter" instead of the night clerk. :) Rod

[ePerformanceMarine]

What about my pledge after the April Spring Classic at Parker ?

Jim

[capnzee]

Jim, you are on! Your pledge is good and I am saving a spot for you--get a good picture. :) Rod

[capnzee]

Well, LARRY LOOPHOLE is at it again. Another outboard question, concerning modifying the lower unuit. The rule states; "THE CLUB TYPE, ROUND NOSE UNITS MUST BE LEFT COMPLETELY STOCK EXCEPT FOR THE WATER INLET HOLES WHICH MAY BE PLUGGED AS DESIRED. METAL (J&B, MARINE TEX, BONDO ETC.) MAY NOT BE ADDED NOR REMOVED TO ASSIST WATER TRAVEL TO THE WATER INLET HOLES." Now what is there that cannot be understood about this? The idea is we want you to run the lower unit as it comes from the factory except you may plug some of the water inlet holes if you like. No, you can't cut them (water inlet holes) out, you can't enlarge them.You can plug them. You can't grind on the lower unit, including the skeg (safety item). You can't even "fatten" the unit if you should so desire--IT MUST BE LEFT STOCK

[capnzee]

JIM BEST-I am unable to send a personal message to you. This is an improper forum but don't know how else to get hold of you. I received your check and pictures for the poster. Forgive me and please help refresh my memory--with regard to the pledge--You were going to take pictures at the April race and send one for the poster--but I already have pictures--so, send me a message and tell me exactly what you would like me to do and I will do my best sorry. Once I get this straight, I will erase this message. :) Rod PS I can accept personal messages or by phone (310) 488-3563 Jim Best called and said that the "pledge" came from
Jim Rich. Jim Rich, I now have everything squared away, and straight in my mind--I tried to erase this message and it would not delete, only edit--so unless the administrator erases it for us, we are stuck with it. WE ONLY HAVE 40 ROOMS AT THE BLUE WATER THIS YEAR--FRIENDS OF MINE CALLED AND GOT ROOMS FOR 85.00 WHICH IS LESS THAN THE "SPECIAL" LAST YEAR. ROSS ALSO SAYS THE ROOMS SOLD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS YEARS PRIZE MONEY, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MANY RESERVED.


I can delete it, but why? Seems to have some good information....Ron

[BADBLOWN572]

Not knowing what exact boat this is but a 22ft stoker with that setup runs 100mph and that would be a very tough boat in Div VI. To me it sounds like it fits right in with out any rule changes.

El Hombre, I understand your concern. Rest assured that the boat, or boats, that we plan on running in Div IV are in no way in the same league as a Stoker. The boat, or boats, that we plan on running is strictly a V bottom cruiser. You are correct, a Mod VP boat can run well over a 100mph with a 525cid engine. Our boat is definitely not in the same category as a Stoker or any other Mod VP.

We have discussed running a couple of boats with Rod. I have informed him that there is a possibility of running multiple boats. One of the boats that we are considering running would definitely fit in Div. VI. We in no way are trying to "skew" the rules or play unfairly. :)

[capnzee]

Race fans, I will be out of town for the next few weeks but I will try and keep in touch. My computer "out back" is really slow so I try to stay away from it. The river is rising and I have old boats and motors in my basement that I donot want to see get wet. If you don't get an answer promptly to a question you have, please call me at (310) 488-3563. :) Rod

[capnzee]

:) :) I have received numerous phone calls concerning the rule on CLUB FOOT ( ROUND NOSE ) lower units on the outboards and outdrives (I.A.4). The present rule requires that the lower unit remain in a stock configuration with no modifications to the water pick-ups. This would make some of the units that ran last year illegal to run this year. In an effort to keep everyone legal, the rules committee is CONSIDERING modifying this rule. The rule as it is currently stated would be deleted and replaced with a rule that simply states "the center of the prop shaft on a round nose unit may be run no higher than 3 inches below the planing surface of the boat". This would simplify the rule for the inspectors, allow slightly modified units that ran last year to run again this year and achieve the same desired speed results. A thank you to all who have made such gentlemanly and sportsmanlike enquiries by phone. I recommend that interested competitors "keep an eye" on this thread as rule changes or modifications may occur in the interest of promoting better racing at the INDIANAPOLIS OF BOAT RACING--THE PARKER ENDURO. :) Rod ** PIT POSITION IS BASED ON DATE ENTRY FEE RECEIVED!

[capnzee]

POSTER PICS-- Got room on the poster for about 3 more pictures. Get your money & 8X10 in now and you have guaranteed yourself a place in history. The Parker Enduro has been called the "greatest boat race on earth!" Twenty years from now you will want to show your grand kids--See what GRAMPAW used to do. Tell me about it! BEEN THERE- DONE THAT! I know you racers will want to TALK THE TALK after you have WALKED THE WALK, with a poster picture to prove it! GET your entries in now and secure an "up front" pit and a super starting position. No need to start last when all you have to do is get your entry in first and that will guarantee a great start out of the gate! Rod "ZOOPER", CO-DRIVER GN-24

[capnzee]

The poster pics are all in and have been sent to the "poster man"! I want to thank Bill Reiter Sr. for donating 100 dollars towards the project as we were coming up a little short. Bill sent me the first 100 bucks, just to get the project off the ground. He has always been a great supporter of the Parker Enduro and continues, thanks a lot Bill! We should have a thousand full color posters ready for distribution by the end of the month. Remember, your pit position as well as your start position will be determined by the date you have mailed in your entry/fee. Why start in the back of the pack when you can start up front? (The back of the pack is where you get into trouble. Start out front and improve on your position) :) Rod

[chill]

:) :) I have received numerous phone calls concerning the rule on CLUB FOOT ( ROUND NOSE ) lower units on the outboards and outdrives (I.A.4). The present rule requires that the lower unit remain in a stock configuration with no modifications to the water pick-ups. This would make some of the units that ran last year illegal to run this year. In an effort to keep everyone legal, the rules committee is CONSIDERING modifying this rule. The rule as it is currently stated would be deleted and replaced with a rule that simply states "the center of the prop shaft on a round nose unit may be run no higher than 3 inches below the planing surface of the boat".


Is this a rule change????

[capnzee]

This rule will be modified as soon as Ross has the time to make the change. I have asked him to delete all of the stock, no modification stuff and simply state that the round nose units must run 3' below the planing surface of the boat.:) Rod

[capnzee]

To Chill and all of you most interested racers who have had questions about the diesel and the round nose lower units. All diesels, turbo charged,blown or naturally aspirated will run in division II. Check your start times. The rule on round noses has now been simplified and has only the prop shaft height rule, which is 3" below the planing surface of the boat. Pointy nose units must run 1" below the planing surface. We want to race but we want to race safely :) Rod

[capnzee]

There have not been any questions as to the rules for the 2007 Parker Enduro posted in the last few weeks. I take this opportunity to ask all of you who plan on racing to go back and review the rules pertaining to the class you intend to compete. Pay particular attention to the weight restrictions and to definitions of the round nose/pointy nose lower units with regard to height. I talked with Jim Rich ( Jet boat enthusiast) today. He tells me that he knows of no one other than himself who plans on running a jet boat in the Parker Enduro. If you recall the SMOKE we had from all of the jet boaters in the beginning of the year with regard to start times, rules etc. this makes me sick! We give you jet set guys the world; first start, great handicap, and the simplest rules in the world, what do we get? nada! Bunch of talkers? I think so! Prove me wrong, I love it--have you sent your entry in yet? :confused: Rod

[Richard Hammond]

Capnzee, to the best of my knowledge all of finishing jet boats from last year are coming back. Remember all of the jet boats were running at the finish the last two years, with the exception of Jim Rich. You should listen to the racers and not just the enthusiasts.

You might want to remember the judges decision reguarding pit stops, did not go well with the jet boat racers. The wining jet boat ran the race on one stop, without a penalty. Several boats are getting rigged to run on no stops, or only one stop as we speak. Rules are for everyone and should be enforced. :eek:

[capnzee]

Richard, you are absolutely right! I shall discuss this with Ross and I guarantee we will make a special effort to ensure that the 2 pit stop rule is enforced. We can do it in several ways. The official at the "in" ramp can have a check-off list of the boats competing and ensure that all boats still running at the end of the race have made their required stops. The scorers can also "highlight" the pit-stops which can be cross-checked with the lap times. Thanks Richard for bringing this to my attention--I have a problem in that I trust everyone who enters the Parker 300 to be a gentleman and a sportsman. The thought that someone would actually try to beat the system by planning no pit stops never entered my mind. I certainly hope your jet boat numbers are right as far as the boats planning on entering the Parker 300. Have any of them sent their entries in? -----After giving the jet boaters every opportunity possible so that they have a fair shot at a podium finish, I just cannot believe that any of them could stoop so low as to cheat:( Capnzee

[Richard Hammond]

The problem is that the racers asked, and the penalty became a 10 minute
infraction. If you do the math, it takes way more than 10 minutes to come
off plane, trailer and re enter the course. If it is only a 10 minute penalty, it is more efficient to skip the pit stop and take the penalty. This is not just for the jets, but all the classes. Why don't they just disqualify the boat if it doesn't make the required stops. Just my 2 cents.

[capnzee]

Richard, your 2 cents is worth a lot more than that--You have made a good point. Maybe the penalty should be 20 minutesor 6 laps or maybe 7 laps. You talk, I'll listen. I listen even better when you have completed the entry blank. :) Rod

[Ted March]

Now Richard's suggestion makes sense!!! No worry, no bithcen. You're done!!! Any anyone that pulls that shot deserves to be done. No second chances for a planned violation of the rules.

[BADBLOWN572]

Did we ever get an official ruling on where our "production" boat is going to run? We will be running a 509cid engine that should make approximately 500 prop shaft h.p. (approx 535 crank shaft h.p.). Boat will be run on 91 octane "pump" gas. The boat that we are talking about is the old Howard Custom Cruiser. I now own the molds as well as the rights to build the boats. We are putting in our "stock" Donahue Marine Power engine. It is a standard engine available for resale to anyone. :) The boat is going to be run off of a Bravo 1 outdrive with a stock 1" shorty sport master lower unit.

If we have to run in Div VI, we stand no chance what so ever.


Please make a ruling on where we will run so we can determine if we are going to run the enduro, with this boat, this year.



Thank you,
Danny

[capnzee]

Hi Danny, good to hear from you. Please take the time to look up the rules one more time. The rule DIV. IV, B, 1 allows engines to 525 cu. in. Double check rules DIV IV, B, 1,2,3,& 4. Tell me if you feel that you meet all of these rules. Minimum length is 19 feet, maximum length is 24 feet and the rule is written for outdrives. After doing this, send me a reply stating how and why you feel your boat fits into Div. IV or needs to run in Div. VI. Please ensure you go into the computer and have a copy of the latest rules governing the Parker 300, the INDIANAPOLIS OF BOAT RACING. I have extra posters if you can pick them up and help distribute them. :) Rod

[BADBLOWN572]

Rod, thank you for your reply. It does appear that our boat will fit within the rules for Div IV. :) We look forward to running the boat in this years enduro.

Danny

[capnzee]

Danny, Glad to see you looked up the rules. I could have done it for you, but I really wanted you, as well as everyone else, to take a look at the latest rules. They do change slightly, (however we try never to "exclude" Aa boat with a rule change) from time to time as we try to meet the challenge of "no boat be left behind". Now Danny, I hope you run competitivley, but if you run away from the field, (some people think you will) you will make me look really bad! Got your entry in yet--pit position and start position are predicated upon the postmark of your entry. :) Rod

[capnzee]

I just reviewed the rules for Div. IV and tunnels with out-drives are not included in this Division. Mod V/P's are, as are straight V-bottoms. :) Rod

[vishus]

Would a Allison BassBoat 20'02" (XB2002) be a division IV boat? it is a fish/ski style pad v hull. I have a stock Mercury 2.5EFI with a CLE coned lower unit. I can run the prop shaft even with the bottom (prefer it higher...) Is the 1300#s with driver or without?

thx.sid

DIVISION IV:
(A) V-Bottom Ski Boats (B) I/O’s (C) Inboard V-Drive

***START TIME: 0 PLUS 40 MINUTES - Approximately 10:40 A.M.

A. V-Bottom ski boats
1. ENGINE: Any outboard engine
2. BOAT: V-Bottom. Minimum length 19ft.
3. WEIGHT: weight (dry) 1300 lbs. minimum
4. DRIVE: In accordance with DIV. 1.A.4. EXCEPT: center of prop shaft may be set no higher than the bottom of the planing surface of the boat.

[capnzee]

I will need some time to think about this one. I have seen so-called Bass Boats that run well over 90 mph which is what Division IV is based on. We have not addressed the question of Bass boats (we had a division for them in 05 but nobody came so we dropped them.) this year but we certainly donot want to leave any boat behind. If you are truly interested, and care to send in a registration, I will take your question to the rules committee. You would be placed in Division IV or Division V starting 10 minutes later. You would also be required to drop your engine so that the prop shaft is 1 inch below the planing surface/pad of your boat. Maybe a phone call would be easier. You can contact me at (310)488-3563. Hate to run and hide but I am trying to seek parity giving every competitor a chance of winning. :) Rod

[capnzee]

Vishus, with the pictures of your Allison in hand, I don't see what we can do to keep you out of Division IV! You will definitely be a contendor!!:) That is a beautiful boat, with a beautiful rooster tail. Can you post your pics on this thread? You will have to remove the trolling motor for obvious safety reasons. Make sure you weigh in at 1300 lbs "dry". Division IV calls for the center of the prop shaft to be no higher than even with the bottom of the boat. Get your registration in to Ross we are trying to get a count! Call me on Monday:) Rod

[647and918]

I'm contemplating trying to run this year, but I'm not sure what division makes sense. As far as I can tell a 20' Stoker with a V8 O/B needs to be Div V or Div VI, correct? What is the real difference between these two divisions??? :confused: I'm not convinced I'm going to be fast enough to be competitive in either, but it'll be fun to try! :D

[capnzee]

A 20 foot stoker with a V-8 Outboard seems a natural for Division V! Make sure you meet the weight limitation and also ensure that your prop shaft height is within the limits of the rules. We have had a V-8 Johnrude running on an Eliminator the past 2 years and has finished in the top 10. I drove a V-8 Evinrude on an Eliminator Daytona with Ron Hill back in the late 80's. We ran a consistant 95, until the prop shaft broke. In conclusion, this race is often not won by the fastest boat, but the boat that finishes. Last years race was won by a boat that never got over 85! Put your doubt behind you and get your registration in--you will find the form on the Parker 300 rules thread just above this one. :) Rod PS: the Division VI boats should be faster and will start 10 minutes after the Division V boats!

[647and918]

Thanks Rod! I don't think the boat will have a problem making weight. I'll see if I can convince my wife this is a good idea and get registered... I need to find out what I broke this morning first and what that's going to cost me though... :D

Engine runs great, and right now she'll go as fast as I can paddle... :rolleyes:

Thanks again for the quick reply!!!

Steve...

[capnzee]

Check with Tim Linn--he has gears, units etc. I would call him first, then ship the whole problem to him and get it back. I am leaving for Illinois on Tuesday and could maybe "help out" with Tim------other wise, you can pick up v-6 mercs for very little----a club foot 2.4 or 2.5 carbureted would run real good on your boat and you could run in Div. III. That is what Hill Marine won with last year. The year before, I took an old 2.4/Sleek craft that had not been run for 6 years, and had sat out in the dessert for as many, put it all together and won the Division with a 7th overall. You can do it buddy, but get your wife on your side first. :eek: Rod

[vishus]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/sid_vishus/allydesk.jpg

four screws and the trolling motor is OFF.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/sid_vishus/DSCF0398.jpg

it will kick up a bit of a "Rooster Tail" (those HILL propellers move some water...)


I patrolled the last Parker 300 in the bassboat, the year prior I patrolled in this...

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/sid_vishus/RIOT.jpg

miss this one... the only problems were trying to "fish" out of it, and NO-ONE would insure it...

[capnzee]

God how I love a 'tail like that--awesome! thanks for the post and get your registration in. with a boat like that, no more patrolling. Check the height of the prop shaft, then check the rules. We need that boat in the race. :) Rod

[capnzee]

I will be out of town for a couple of weeks and my computer in Illinois is really slow, however I will try to get back to your questions as rapidly as possible. If you really need a quick answer call me at (310) 488-3563. :) Rod

[647and918]

I remember reading a post somewhere indicating that fuel would either available on site or there was contact information for delivery... Does anyone have that info or can remind me which topic it was under???

Thanks!

Steve...

[capnzee]

If I recall correctly, Ross has said that fuel would be available at the race site. The question was asked for the Division I boats that will require standard pump gas (92 octane). However at the time I believe that Ross had said that higher octane fuel would also be available. Best thing to do on this one is give Ross a call. :) Rod