225 ficht ram

[inshoreracing]

Hello,

I would like to know, if it is possible to modified the 225 ficht ram setup, to give more rpm and horsepower.
how to abolish the rpm limiteur

The 225 and 250 and HO are the same engine with different setup...so...it is only the ECU setup so...

speak soon and many thanks by advance
jm

[looseunit225]

if its ficht injection!

get rid of the injection and bolt V8 carby's to it or get a mad efi injection system for it!

thats the general rule of thumb for those things

[inshoreracing]

ok, you know somebody who has a 225cv ficht ram equiped with mad efi ?
it is simple to install?
speak soon
jm

[looseunit225]

yeah theres a guy here in Aus with a full mad efi setup on a ficht block and its near on 400hp but that was a big dollar engine!

im not sure why but i was told that the ficht engines werent that good!

[inshoreracing]

have you sture information about the ficht are not good engine?

It is near the same powerhead like the carbs engine 3liter....

perhaps electronics spares are not good?
speak soon

[looseunit225]

i think it was more about the inlection system or something! i think it had a tendancy to lean out on oil or on fuel and cause damage that way!

[looseunit225]

how did you go with getting some info on the engine?

[inshoreracing]

Hi,

I haven't information about the engine, and the possiblity tunning of this engine.

Do you know the max RPM of the engine before limitor?
Mad efi it is not possible for ficht ram say me Mr Taylor.Problem with injector


If you have an idéa???.....
regards
jm

[looseunit225]

mad efi is regrettebly not run by mr Wayne Taylor after he past away earlyier in the year!

but i hear they are still going! i will find out from this guy here in Aus cause i am 100% he is running a ficht block but he is running Motec injection system with a Mad efi Slide front on it!

[racer55]

Limiter is at 6150. Darren is running a heavly modified ficht block on one engien other is a e-tec block and they have Motec. The system works very well but is complicated. To run a mad efi system you would need to take off the ficht sytem.

[looseunit225]

do we know each other racer 55?

[racer55]

Possibly, I send a lot of stuff your way.

Regards,
Alan

[looseunit225]

where bouts are you situated?

[inshoreracing]

ok for take off the ficht sytem, but I must take off injector, and what full system can I buy to take the ficht system place ?


perhaps it is more simple to find a 250HO ecu with injector????

I will use this engine in 24 hours of Rouen, and the engine will be full gaz during 24 hours........less refueling!!
jm

[looseunit225]

can you just find a 250 etec power head that seems like the better idea

[omt14f3dse]

Hey Guys, We have been trying to run one of Waynes (before passing) E-Tec slide front intake systems here in NZ. Our biggest issue has been RF noise on the Ignition and injector timing control systems. We know of an engine the same as ours in USA running the gold flywheel F1 ignition system but this is only good to about 7500rpm before RF disrupts the injector timing. Our most successful and reliable F1 engine has been a 3ltr DI (ficht) block with minor exhaust and large finger porting and a Mad Efi cross front running 6 small bore plastic carbs from a late 90's big block. I wish there was an easy fix to get more revs out of the E-Tec or DI engines but we havent found one yet and we have the blow ups to prove it. There is heaps more we have tried but could be a long reply. Cheers DSE

[looseunit225]

darren spencer here in ause runs a similar setup to waht you are saying but he runs a MOTEC ignition and injection system and it allows him to rev to 8,500 rpms

do you have any of those gold race flywheels?

[omt14f3dse]

We have 2 Goldies but not for sale as yet. We can contact our USA friend to see if he has any, Will get back to you on this. As for the ECU we are running a wolf-ems from aus. This was supplied by wayne as tested by himself but when but on an F1 the engine requirements were different to his test boat. Wayne put heaps of time into testing this system for us. The wolf is an awesome ECU for tuneability and is not the cause of our problem just need more test time, lots of it. Will get team boss to talk to darren and see if thier experience can help us to become reliable again. Thanks for the info DSE

[looseunit225]

yeah really looking for a better fly wheel for my engine rather than having the V4 fly wheel plus i have like 5 good starters for a V6 but i have to machine them down so they fit on the V4 fly wheel pain in the arse i rekon

have you thought about sleaving all your components and use double core air craft wire for the systems!

when i used to work on aircraft RF interuption was a big playing part into things and we always used stainless shealded wire and this fire sleave stuff over all components and looms and things like that!

cheers

[omt14f3dse]

For the gold flywheel and also for help in the USA regarding making a DI or E-Tec Evinrude go harder you both need to contact Greg Jacobsen. He has plenty of parts and is also building some very fast E-Tec F1 engines. I agree that the wiring is our problem, so will need to work on getting all the correct gear to sort it out. Cheers dse

[inshoreracing]

many thanks for these information, but The race of 24 hours of rouen is under UIM control, and I must run with "standart "engine, no free engine...with all modification allowed....

I need "only" more 25/30hp with 500/1000 rpm, and so modify the oil deliver volum control of the Di Oiler?I need more lubrification during the 2 straight line (1800meters)with full rpm to avoid the damage engine.

some ideas?:rolleyes:

[looseunit225]

how do i get a hold of this greg jacobsen bloke?

[omt14f3dse]

To looseunit55, Greg owns seaway marine and is contactable thru his web site at sea-way.com. he is a nice guy and will be able to help you with the fly wheel. cheers.

To inshoreracer, If you are running an 01-03 DI then you can insert a restrictor in the oil return line. This will increase the oil pump pressure. If you want to test this pressure the best way is to use the pressure switch port and make up an adaptor, this is a 1/4" push in fitting as used by most pneumatic companys. You need to push the collar away from the switch and pull the switch down to remove. The engine will run 30psi under normal operation, but pulses up to 54psi to close the pressure switch. With the gauge fitted you can slowly crimp the return line and watch the pressure rise you can insert a restrictor and drill out to reach 40psi (this does use more oil and smokes a little) this should be good for durability on the straights. More oil can give you more revs as well but only testing will tell that. If you are running an E-Tec then the only way is to set the oiling system to XD50 and run XD100 oil. This gives more oil through the rev range but does not change the oiling above 5000rpm as they automaticly increase the oil quantity at that point. This will work well as the weakest point on these engines is the high load medium rev area. Hope this helps.
Cheers DSE

[omt14f3dse]

Sorry inshoreracer forgot th mention you need to place a jump wire across the loom side of the switch plug as the no oil alarm will go off. Please ensure to reinstall the switch system once you have tested it and reached 40psi or the no oil will not operate. Cheers DSE

[inshoreracing]

many thanks for all these informations.It seems to me you are specialist!!
but I am french, and I don't understand all you say:confused:.Can you explain the good solution with simple word?:o
best regards
jm

[omt14f3dse]

To give you the simplest solution I need to know model number of engine as I am not sure if you are running an E-Tec (2005-2008) or older DI engine (2000-2004). It should start with E225 or E250. Cheers DSE

[inshoreracing]

sorry for the long delay for answer.
I will use a DI, not an ETEC.

I don't know if I use a 3l or a 3.3l What do you think about this choice?
best regards
jm

[omt14f3dse]

Hi there, If you can get a 2004 3.3ltr DI that would be the best to use, as a few more cc's are always good out of the corners and they pull the same revs as the 3.0ltr in standard form. You will need to increase the oil pressure to ensure medium rev high load area is covered. If you have a good BRP workshop near you they should be able to follow the previous instructions on how to do this. You can also increase the spring tension in the oil return line back pressure valve, but I haven't used this method myself. and drilling a restrictor is easier and faster when testing to get the pressure right. Hope this helps DSE.

[inshoreracing]

manu thanks to omt14f3dse for his precious informations
best regards
jm