carb floats

[niesenracing]

Just wondering if anyone knew where to get some carb floats for a c service or racing engine
thanks, steve

[Fast Fred]

what moda we talkin about, for the most part, floats is floats:eek::cool:

[Mark75H]

what moda we talkin about, for the most part, floats is floats:eek::cool:

He's talking about a C Service APBA alky motor. (The Johnson "P" motor)

[Bill Van Steenwyk]

Try R.C. Hawie. He bought a lot of service motor parts from Butch Leavendusky several years ago.

[Fast Fred]

so he needs brass, a brass float? c service is that like a 25hp or so?:cool:

[Mark75H]

I think he is looking for cork

[Roy Hodges]

[QUOTE=Mark75H;69844]I think he is looking for cork.............................................. .................................................. ................................
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.................................................. .................................................. ..................................Aren't all the "C service" motors PRE-World War Two ?

[Fast Fred]

?, don't know, someone got a shot of one?

[Bill Van Steenwyk]

Roy:

I am far from an expert on these motors, but I seem to have heard somewhere that some of the service motors raced were made from motors that were attached to water pumps during WWII. Hence the nickname "Pumpers". I have no idea whether that is just BS or not, but I believe I heard Stan Leavendusky tell that as fact, and what he didn't know about C Service motors didn't really need knowing. If true that means that some of the Service motors were actually made during WWII, at least the power heads which drove water pumps.

[Roy Hodges]

[QUOTE=Bill Van Steenwyk;69848]Roy:

I am far from an expert on these motors, but I seem to have heard somewhere that some of the service motors raced were made from motors that were attached to water pumps during WWII. Hence the nickname "Pumpers". I have no idea whether that is just BS or not, but I believe I heard Stan Leavendusky tell that as fact, and what he didn't know about C Service motors didn't really need knowing. If true that means that some of the Service motors were actually made during WWII, at least the power heads which drove water pumps............................................. .................................................. .............................
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When talking about "pumpers" , THEY were 4 cylinder , 60 cubic inch opposed omc power heads on pumps. the "C" service motors are 30 cube opposed twins. I just wasn't sure when they were last made. My uncle was in ww2, and told me that where he was in europe ,once, they had to abandon a whole warehouse full of 4-60's , so they blew up the whole building full of 4-60 outboards and pumpers , to keep the germans from getting them.

[Bill Van Steenwyk]

Just one more important piece of information I now have staight in my head.
Thanks for the clarification.

Wonder how much other stuff that someone would find valuable like those powerheads/pumps was blown up in WWII. Probably more than we could ever imagine.

[Mark75H]

Correct on the Johnson P motors being mostly pre-WWII production. I looked it up, my book shows the last production year being 1950. It is also correct that they are not the "pumper" motors.

I think there were 2 sizes of the fire pumps. One used an inline 2 based on the 15ci Johnson K and could donate parts to an A class KR type motor and the other was similar to the 4-60 and could essentially be converted to an F motor with a lot of work and some parts from Hubbell or some other aftermarket parts maker. The motors are far from drop on donors in either case. The motors in a warehouse in Europe that had to be destroyed would have been 33hp "SpeediFours" not exactly 4-60's but similar. About as similar as 140 hp Mercs and Merc T-IIX's ... the same thing only different (as my brother says).

Back to the carb floats needed ... they are nothing in the realm of what you know anything about, Fred :(

[Allen J. Lang]

The floats are cork and fairly large used in the Vacturi AO 500 carb. The P 500 4 cyl engines were not for high speed rpms.The late Bud Wigert mentioned in a letter that he purchased a large group of them from a surplus store and that they had weak cranks, usually lasting 3 or so races. He also mentioned the Speeditwin blocks to use were from the early '30s as they had the biggest transfer passages. I noticed in an article in the Antique Outboarder that Bud Cowdry (?) used to enlarge the fuel transfer ports by welding to the outside and virtually elimate the origional passage.
The Speeditwin is the engine prefered with a P-50 once in awhile using a S Johnson recontured Lower unit.
Ye Olde Desert Geezer :cool:

[niesenracing]

sorry about not answering earlier i forgot i posted. Yes the cork ones they all decided to fall apart at the nationals last year. although i cant really blame them since the motors were built in 60's by my grandfather put in storage raced by my father in the 80's put back in storage and now raced by me