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    Default possibly something that had to do with banning was.......

    it was approved by a Commission before one racing season. I wonder if the Commission that
    then took that approval away was the subsequent Commission from the next election. In other words enough different members who might not have approved it the first time and were elected to the subsequent Commission just for that purpose. As previously stated, I know there were petitions, etc., for ban it after initial approval. The next natural step if that did not work would be to change the Commission enough to get it done that way.

    I have given all my old rule books away so have no reference anymore to see who was on the 86/87 Commission versus the next one. That might tell a lot about the situation to know all the personalities involved, if anyone is still that interested.

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    While visiting Harry Brinkmans stoage building a few years ago I took these pictures of two boats I was told were DeSilvas. They were brand new and at that time were for sale. I do not know if Mike Brinkman still has them or if they were sold.
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    Delta also means 3 ... I thought delta referred to the 3 running surfaces.

    I have a 12 ft Delta tunnel. Ron is right it can be run in water significantly rougher than is normally raced. 12 inch chop definitely ... maybe 18" rollers, not sure it would be really race-able in 2 foot rollers ... but unlike "regular" race boats, it wouldn't be in danger of sinking in 2 foot rollers.

    My boat was the prototype given to Karl Williams to try with the antique classes. Karl and his son said they felt it had good straight line capability, but the front step on that particular boat was too tall and limited its turning ability.

    I only ran it at one short course race and confirmed its speed (a very good 75+ at Denton MD) and poor turning. It also made an unacceptably big wake. I have altered it for better turning, but not yet for the wake problem. I am certain my boat's bottom differs from these significantly and my boat's poor handling are not characteristics shared with the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A/B Speedliner View Post
    I took these pictures of two boats I was told were DeSilvas.
    One cannot mistake the lines and beautiful craftmanship of a DeSilva Runabout........I owned and ran two during my racing career. I always thought the way they made the cowlings was kinda' cool. They are made from single sided corragated cardboard, with a light glass covering. You can see the cardboard color in the pic on both boats. If you look under the cowling, you can see the corragated side of the cardboard as well.

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    I agree they were very nicely built boats. I had 3 of them including one that also had a tunnel. The tunnel was not as severe as the one in the picture of the stock boat. Unfortunately I dnt have a picture of the bottom and I no longer have the boat. I raced it at Yelm Washington where I set a record with it in FER back in the late 80's or early 90's. At inspection the boat was deemed illegal due to the bottom and was put in the Mod Technical Manuel there after not sure if its still there or not. I did have the tunnel filled did not see any difference.

    I would also like to know if anyone would knows what KR stood for have heard many stories all different.

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    Seems I once knew...

    Here are a few pictures of MOD VP bottoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1100r View Post
    I agree they were very nicely built boats. I had 3 of them including one that also had a tunnel. The tunnel was not as severe as the one in the picture of the stock boat. Unfortunately I dnt have a picture of the bottom and I no longer have the boat. I raced it at Yelm Washington where I set a record with it in FER back in the late 80's or early 90's. At inspection the boat was deemed illegal due to the bottom and was put in the Mod Technical Manuel there after not sure if its still there or not. I did have the tunnel filled did not see any difference.

    I would also like to know if anyone would knows what KR stood for have heard many stories all different.
    Kincades Revenge

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    Default As In Home Kincade???

    Revenge....More details needed here!

    WAS HOMER ALKY VP AT THE TIME???

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    Revenge....More details needed here!

    WAS HOMER ALKY VP AT THE TIME???
    Could be. something to do with lifting rails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Hill View Post
    Revenge....More details needed here!

    WAS HOMER ALKY VP AT THE TIME???
    At The time around 1972/73, the flat deck boats would take to the sky for no real good reason, The bigger the motor the more this would happen. The rules were relaxed if you will to allow the sides of the boat to be narrowed and brought in at the top deck lines. With a cowl added it was thought that the down force at the cowl and because the sides were brought in. The boat would stay on the water. It did. The lift rails as they were called were also used on some of the later flat deckers but the flat deckers still would shoot for the moon at good speeds. When bruce got the first KR it was proven that this was the way to go as "Miss Laurie" was the Cadilac that it looked and was faster around the race course. Seems that Homer got his boxers in a major bunch as he thought a runabout should hold the lines like the antique boats. After much talk, ( screaming and crying on Homer's part) it was voted to allow this "new type of runabout" and the name KR as in Kincade revenge was born. That's as I was told. Still a major breakthrough for us, and made runabout racing safer for us all. Seems natural that what Mike Krier made in the mid eighties that looked like a stealth fighter, was still again a major improvement on our boats. The Delta also would of been interesting to shake out if it were not for a few nay sayers. Steve

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